<![CDATA[Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves...]]>The Cleveland Browns on Tuesday signed tight end Connor Hamlett and defensive back Tim Scott to the practice squad. To make room on the roster, the team released defensive back Kendall James from the practice squad.

Hamlett is a 6-7, 259-pound rookie out of Oregon State where he totaled 104 catches for 1,109 yards and 10 TDs in 47 career games and 29 starts. A native of Edmonds, Wash., Hamlett was originally signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars as an undrafted free agent in 2015 and was released at the end of training camp. He also spent time on practice squads for the Philadelphia Eagles and the New Orleans Saints. Hamlett attended Meadowdale High School in Lynnwood, Wash.

Scott, 5-11, 195-pound rookie, started 45 of 50 career games at North Carolina, totaling 212 tackles, 25 passes defensed and eight INTs. Scott originally signed with the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2015 and was released at the end of training camp before spending time on the Cowboys practice squad. A native of Fredericksburg Va., Scott attended Colonial Forge High School in Stafford, Va.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-sign-TE-Connor-Hamlett-DB-Tim-Scott-to-practice-squad-/4d5ef056-50b0-4e9c-ac1e-047c93222683

The above on top of:

12/08/2015 Signed OL Darrian Miller.

12/08/2015 Placed FB Malcolm Johnson on injured reserve.

12/07/2015 Signed OL Gabe Ikard.

12/07/2015 Placed OL Joel Bitonio on injured reserve.

12/05/2015 Waived OL Darrian Miller.

12/05/2015 Signed WR Darius Jennings to the active roster from the practice squad

12/02/2015 Released OL Ronald Patrick from the practice squad.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/38900/farmer-says-i-m-still-here-more-roster-moves...RSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 05:30:02 GMTTue, 08 Dec 2015 22:52:36 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Sat, 19 Dec 2015 07:46:22 GMT]]>Hey I'm first place Tour! Any GM would be lucky to step in my office for consultation.

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@the-gipper said:

Really? And she (someone said it was a woman) doesn't pick him as one of the top ten busts....but he does pick Duke?

I don't know if the author is a Steeler fan? But she is as stupid as a Steeler fan.

Here ya have it Gip. 🙂http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/Sammie-Coates/f48730eb-5ec1-40fe-ba07-4b9f10a14963

Now if Vagitron was still posting, he'd have him as a rookie of the year candidate. In all fairness, he has a couple of pretty good guys ahead of him.

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@hoorta said:

Yeah, I call BS on Johnson- only a third round pick giving us at least third round production. You were expecting Barry Sanders?

But man- that clip of Erving getting pancaked by the Steelers was bad, really, really bad.

Author must be a Steelers fan. Their third round pick Sammy Coates has one reception for 11 yards. BUST.

Really? And she (someone said it was a woman) doesn't pick him as one of the top ten busts....but he does pick Duke?

I don't know if the author is a Steeler fan? But she is as stupid as a Steeler fan.

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@canton-dawg said:

As much as I despise Farmer, I call bullshit on this article.

3 Browns make the top ten list. . .

Ten biggest NFL rookie busts of 2015

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ten-biggest-nfl-rookie-busts-in-2015/ar-BBnD9pw

Yeah, I call BS on Johnson- only a third round pick giving us at least third round production. You were expecting Barry Sanders?

But man- that clip of Erving getting pancaked by the Steelers was bad, really, really bad.

Author must be a Steelers fan. Their third round pick Sammy Coates has one reception for 11 yards. BUST.

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@unsympathetic said:

Your agreement means nothing.

The problem that was originally hypothesized in this thread ["Too Many Moves"] was DISPROVEN by Tour. It's objectively wrong.

You haven't defined a new problem that incorporates his data.

Continuing to repeat your incorrect assertion does NOT eliminate the influence of Tour's data -- it makes you wrong.

Repeating 1,2,5 items that don't represent anything systemic.. doesn't change anything or "refute" Tour's post.

Hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Then I just have the OPINION I don't like the way Farmer is churning the roster. And dumping a wr when Harline and Hawkins won't be available, Bowe being a stiff- and picking up a running back that we don't really need- is plain crazy IMHO.

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@the-gipper said:

@unsympathetic said:

Continuing to repeat your incorrect assertion does NOT eliminate the influence of Tour's data -- it makes you wrong.

The influence of Tour's data is not established. It is only anecdotal.

Yup... anecdotal... the other thing it is though is data, of which you have offered zip.

@kvoethe said:

I agree x3

First triple post I can recall... New record?

@wargograw said:

I'm with Tour. No problem in just bringing guys in. Same way I run my fantasy team.

May have stumbled upon Farmer's core issue...

@mudfly said:

I did like Zombo and only looked at page one......Cause there is no way Duke is a year one bust.....ridiculous.....

As a Receiving Back... certainly not a bust.

As a Running Back... a case can be made.

On balance, however, no, not a bust.

Also not a bust in my mind... Shelton. Stats are not glitzy to be sure, but do the numbers not still support that he has been a middle run stuffer? Haven't seen then in a while, but at one point earlier I believe that was what they showed.

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@wargograw said:

Kruger has a positive PFF grade?

Yep......completely outrageous, isnt it.....???

I think Im gonna cancel my subscription....JUST because of this.......

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/560184https://brownsboard.com/post/560184Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:33:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:49 GMT]]>Kruger has a positive PFF grade?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/560180https://brownsboard.com/post/560180Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:29:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:44:35 GMT]]>I did like Zombo and only looked at page one......Cause there is no way Duke is a year one bust.....ridiculous.....

BUT.....I did see that they had Beasley listed as one of the busts and he was a guy I really wanted, so was a little disappointed to see he didnt do well..... I decided to check the numbers to see just HOW bad he was as a Rookie....cause watching my favorite whipping boy, Kruger, has just worn me out and I thought Beasley woulda made a nice replacement for him....

Beasley....3 sacks....30 hurries......15 tackles.....3 missed tackles.....12 stops....PFF 3.1

Kruger......3 sacks....33 hurries......16 tackles.....6 missed tackles.....15 stops....PFF 3.0

Spooky, isnt it........?

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@the-gipper said:

Yea.....I can see the other two....but not Duke. He was only a third round pick....and I think that for a pick in that area he has done fine for his rookie year.

Agreed. I didn't read the article because it is one of those you have to click through page by page.

But I saw the author was a chick.

And if she has Duke in the top 10 bust list she has never seen a football game.

See Page 10

http://www.brownsmedia.com/images/9003/12_20_15_vs_Seattle_Seahawks.pdf

2nd in rookie receptions

5th in rookie receiving yards

5th in NFL running back receptions

4th in NFL running back receiving yards

7th in Browns all-time rookie reception leaders ... could be third on the list by Sunday night.

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@cvcanedy said:

Duke? Stupid article

Yea.....I can see the other two....but not Duke. He was only a third round pick....and I think that for a pick in that area he has done fine for his rookie year.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/560141https://brownsboard.com/post/560141Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:15:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:56:47 GMT]]>I'm with Tour. No problem in just bringing guys in. Same way I run my fantasy team. I've made over 55 moves this year. I just pick up a guy. If he goes off, great. If he doesn't, then I switch it the next week. No problem.

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@hoorta said:

Can't teach an old dog new tricks huh? As was said, then why isn't he getting in when Benji has to take a blow after running a fly pattern?

Im only the messenger, but it sounded to me like he has to pick 6 guys to sit each week....and usually only carries 4 wide outs ...so he picks the 4 he can move around and do the most with....more just a numbers game...

(Though I suspect Pettine would prefer just to say he sucks and a dead elephant could run faster)

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@cvcanedy said:

Duke? Stupid article

I agree x3

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@canton-dawg said:

As much as I despise Farmer, I call bullshit on this article.

3 Browns make the top ten list. . .

Ten biggest NFL rookie busts of 2015

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ten-biggest-nfl-rookie-busts-in-2015/ar-BBnD9pw

Duke? Stupid article

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@canton-dawg said:

As much as I despise Farmer, I call bullshit on this article.

3 Browns make the top ten list. . .

Ten biggest NFL rookie busts of 2015

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ten-biggest-nfl-rookie-busts-in-2015/ar-BBnD9pw

Duke? Stupid article

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/560006https://brownsboard.com/post/560006Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:04:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Thu, 17 Dec 2015 23:57:55 GMT]]>As much as I despise Farmer, I call bullshit on this article.

3 Browns make the top ten list. . .

Ten biggest NFL rookie busts of 2015

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ten-biggest-nfl-rookie-busts-in-2015/ar-BBnD9pw

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@medinadawg said:

He has them in Gordon, Barnidge and Pryor.

Hartline too.

Z

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@tour2ma said:

Get JM taller Receivers.... CHECK! 😉

He has them in Gordon, Barnidge and Pryor.

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@unsympathetic said:

Your agreement means nothing.

The problem that was originally hypothesized in this thread ["Too Many Moves"] was DISPROVEN by Tour. It's objectively wrong.

This is a conclusion that is not within the purview of the questioner to make.

Nothing has been proven or disproven.....the mere presentation of snippets of evidence is not clear and convincing proof

You haven't defined a new problem that incorporates his data.

Continuing to repeat your incorrect assertion does NOT eliminate the influence of Tour's data -- it makes you wrong.

The influence of Tour's data is not established. It is only anecdotal.

Repeating 1,2,5 items that don't represent anything systemic.. doesn't change anything or "refute" Tour's post.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/559972https://brownsboard.com/post/559972Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:31:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:25:55 GMT]]>

@unsympathetic said:

Have you ever had to answer a set of Interrogatories?

What number [both mean AND s.d.] are you hypothesizing is the "normal" number of transactions for a stable franchise?

Less than we have made.

What's your historical data to back up that hypothesis? What's the source of that data?

The fact is that the Browns are an unstable franchise that makes many moves. The Question is the source of the answer itself.

With that defined.. What, exactly, is the problem?

The problem is that the Browns are an unstable franchise.

"Transactions" in and of themselves aren't a thing. Is the transaction to backfill because of an injury? Is it because of inconsistent/inadequate play of the low-roster guys? Is it because of poor character in the locker room of the low-roster guys?

Objection. Rhetorical not designed to elicit a reply that is with the knowledge of the respondent.

This would result in.. The mean transaction count over time being too high? The mean OK but the s.d. too high? The transaction count annual run rate trending above the upper control limit over the last 3 seasons in a row? [eg, we ignore single season blips]

The question posed is hypothetical. It is not designed to elicit a reply that is within the knowledge of the respondent.

And now that we've defined the problem.. How, exactly, will we know we've "fixed" this issue?

The question makes assumption that cannot within reason be declared factual....and fails to pose such question such that an answer would be within the knowledge of the respondent.

Without this information, I do not agree that there is a problem. If you can't measure it, it didn't happen.

Question is argumentative. It denies well established criteria.

Welcome to my world.

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@hoorta said:

I agree with ya Gip.

Your agreement means nothing.

The problem that was originally hypothesized in this thread ["Too Many Moves"] was DISPROVEN by Tour. It's objectively wrong.

You haven't defined a new problem that incorporates his data.

Continuing to repeat your incorrect assertion does NOT eliminate the influence of Tour's data -- it makes you wrong.

Repeating 1,2,5 items that don't represent anything systemic.. doesn't change anything or "refute" Tour's post.

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@texasag1969 said:

I think the funny thing is that if Bowe does play it will show exactly why he was a horrible pickup even more glaringly and will cost Farmer his job. That guy couldn't get open if he wore a jet pack.

Observation backed up by Gruden on MNF.....

@the-gipper said:

Again....just another probably useless fiddlefartfuckaround move by Farmer to justify his existance.

I mean, really: West, Draughn, Turbin, this guy....and who the fuckever else? If Farmer wants to play games why doesn't he just get a Parcheesi game.

I agree with ya Gip.

@mudfly said:

And Pettine actually spoke on Bowe yesterday in his pressy, when asked why Bowe never plays........

And, basically, he said that Bowe has only played the X(or #1 position), which is Benji's job....and isn't able to adjust to other sets.....ala the #2 or slot......

And.....

#1) since he isnt "flexible" in what he does, the other receivers offer more to a coach in their ability to adjust and move around........

#2) Benji is playing great and it would be unfair to sit him for Bowe......

So....there it is.....if you want Bowe, then either Benji sits or Bowe plays a role he doesn't know how to play....

Can't teach an old dog new tricks huh? As was said, then why isn't he getting in when Benji has to take a blow after running a fly pattern?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/559951https://brownsboard.com/post/559951Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:35:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Farmer says "I'm Still here!" More Roster Moves... on Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:16:34 GMT]]>

@the-gipper said:

Again....just another move by Farmer to justify his existance.

What number [both mean AND s.d.] are you hypothesizing is the "normal" number of transactions for a stable franchise?

What's your historical data to back up that hypothesis? What's the source of that data?

With that defined.. What, exactly, is the problem?

"Transactions" in and of themselves aren't a thing. Is the transaction to backfill because of an injury? Is it because of inconsistent/inadequate play of the low-roster guys? Is it because of poor character in the locker room of the low-roster guys?

This would result in.. The mean transaction count over time being too high? The mean OK but the s.d. too high? The transaction count annual run rate trending above the upper control limit over the last 3 seasons in a row? [eg, we ignore single season blips]

And now that we've defined the problem.. How, exactly, will we know we've "fixed" this issue?

Without this information, I do not agree that there is a problem. If you can't measure it, it didn't happen.

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