@the-cysko-kid said:

we're definitely stirring the hornets nest of shit though wouldn't you agree? Yes those old conflicts have always been there but at least for some time they were confined and isolated. Now because of brilliant foreign policy strategy we're introducing the whole planet to what a non secular fuckhole the midde east is.

@gftchris said:

oh the math!! the horrible math!!! It's not like there's a calculator function that's been on all phones for like 20 years or something, like how sweet would that be? I should totally patent that idea.

all immigration from all terrorist countries?

Like I mentioned earlier - there is a huge political aspect to too many people

who look to Islam. Terrorists have been proven to have inflitrated the mass immigration

movement. It's beyond banning from a country. What else is there to do?

Put a hold on ALL immigration, just as to not profile Muslims coming from radical countries.

@osiris said:

I'm curious, do you believe the US bears no responsibility for any of these things?

I'm pretty sure all these problems existed in the middle east hundreds of years before the conquerers set foot in America. But yes, we are embroiled in thousand year old conflicts so to some degree we are responsible but what excuse did muslims use to murder before the west was a thing? The line of succession of Mohammed? Whether ali or Abu Bakr was better?

@calfoxwc said:

Cal there is a difference between banning immigration based on national affiliation vs. religious affiliation.

@gftchris said:

Not offensive. Plenty of people say offensive things. It's about specifically inciting hatred based on an 'protected attribute' such as race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. The same things you can't be fired for, basically.

Pamela Geller got barred from entering the UK.

So how did Trump incite hatred?

The only hatred I saw come from all this was from leftists and democrat/republican politicians..hatred toward Trump.

Choosing just 2% from the data below of Muslims believing that terrorism could be justified often, we come up with 320,000,000 million camel fuckers that believe terrorism is justified often....the population of the U.S.

Did that help you liberal simpletons put things into perspective?

(36 vs 64) 64% of Muslims in France believed it could never be justified, 19% believed it could be justified rarely, 10% sometimes, and 6% thought it could be justified often.

(30 vs 70) 70% of Muslims in Britain believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 12% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often.

(17 vs 83) 83% of Muslims in Germany believed it could never be justified, 6% believed it could be justified rarely, 6% sometimes, and 1% thought it could be justified often.

(31 vs 69) 69% of Muslims in Spain believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 10% sometimes, and 6% thought it could be justified often.

In mainly Muslim countries:

(55 vs 45) 45% of Muslims in Egypt believed it could never be justified, 25% believed it could be justified rarely, 20% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often.

(39 vs 61) 61% of Muslims in Turkey believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 14% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often.

(57 vs 43) 43% of Muslims in Jordan believed it could never be justified, 28% believed it could be justified rarely, 24% sometimes, and 5% thought it could be justified often.

(72 vs 28) 28% of Muslims in Nigeria believed it could never be justified, 23% believed it could be justified rarely, 38% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often.

(31 vs 69) 69% of Muslims in Pakistan believed it could never be justified, 8% believed it could be justified rarely, 7% sometimes, and 7% thought it could be justified often.

(29 vs 71) 71% of Muslims in Indonesia believed it could never be justified, 18% believed it could be justified rarely, 8% sometimes, and 2% thought it could be justified often.

John Esposito, using poll data from Gallup, wrote in 2008 that Muslims and Americans were equally likely to reject violence against civilians. He also found that those Muslims who support violence against civilians are no more religious than Muslims who do not.[28]

A 2010 Zogby poll reported that 69% of American Muslims supported stronger laws to fight terrorism.[29]

A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified. 26% of Muslims in Bangladesh believe attacks are either somewhat justified or often justified, 18% in Malaysia, 7% in Iraq, 15% in Jordan, 29% in Egypt, 39% in Afghanistan and 40% in the Palestinian territories.[30][31][32] The survey did not include some Muslim nations, such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Yemen, Syria, and Libya, but did include densely populated Muslim countries such as Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria and Indonesia.[33] According to a 2007 poll conducted by the PolicyExchange think tank in Britain, nearly 60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16- to 24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those over 55. Also, 36%[34] of 16- to 24-year-olds British Muslims believed that those converting to another religion should be executed. Less than a fifth of those over 55 think so.[35]

@gftchris said:

So for being offensive?

WSS

@logicisforsquares said:

Not offensive. Plenty of people say offensive things. It's about specifically inciting hatred based on an 'protected attribute' such as race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. The same things you can't be fired for, basically.

Pamela Geller got barred from entering the UK.

@calfoxwc said:

By the way, I heard a couple of Muslim leaders of groups... talk about how they

agreed with Trump on that. They said we can't let the threat of violence just

come here along with all those who truly wish to live here..

my paraphrasing....

Stuart

I sincerely want this to believe this. But words aren't enough.

The Muslim opposition to terrorism should be as fierce as the proponents of terrorism itself...kinda like Newtons third law of physics:

For every force there is a reaction force that is equal in size and opposite in direction.

Of the few Islamic leaders that express outrage, it is most likely disingenuous. It is fake outrage, and you simpletons are buying it.

Lying is permitted in Islam, and Muslims are staunch believers in their faith. Put those two together.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

@clevfan4life said:

you did read the article posted by logic I believe, that detailed how Isis was on the U.S payroll when the called themselves the Sons of Iraq....you did read that right?

Actually I was answering a question from Chris.

It has nothing to do with any article.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

you did read the article posted by logic I believe, that detailed how Isis was on the U.S payroll when the called themselves the Sons of Iraq....you did read that right?

WSS

agreed with Trump on that. They said we can't let the threat of violence just

come here along with all those who truly wish to live here..

my paraphrasing....

But let a non-liberal knee jerk about banning the immigration of Muslims, well, that's "offensive".

We can't let the whole world come here to live - there isn't room. Control it, and freaking VET

every single one.

I still say, all this wailing over what Trump said, that was dumb, and that German Christian family

was refused to be allowed to stay in the U.S., and the obamao regime fought and fought

to make them go back to Germany.

I mean, seriously?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield

@gftchris said:

Wait, I thought it was only muslims signing that petition? Now they're laughing at people signing the petition? Come on guys, at least be consistent in this.

I'd be intrigued to hear which areas of london specifically are no go zones. In fact, if you come up with any, I might (if it's not hours away) go there and take a picture of it for you.

Only? Come on woody.

WSS

@osiris said:

I'm curious, do you believe the US bears no responsibility for any of these things?

I don't believe that at all.

WSS

Luton is what you'd politely call a 'multicultural' town, with lots of people from all over the world. It's a bit of a shit hole generally, but I have never felt unsafe there. I grew up about 20 miles from there.