<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, a lot of this has to do with some great posting in here not only buffering my frustration but pointing out more accurate angles for conclusions.  Hats off to everybody.  On top of that, I keep losing sight of Pettine being in charge of all 3 stages today.  While I remain frustrated with the defense, there's some silver linings I see here in some very important areas as well as some doable upgrades and problem solves:</p>

<p>1) QB is supposed to be the most important position on the team. This year, the least of all our problems on game day was the QB position regardless of what guy we turned to.  The Defense was never going to protect our starter with a reasonable/doable margin of error so winning a close low scoring game was never going to be our reality. The more I think about it with Manziel - partying wasn't his only problem coming here.  Nobody ever said "NO" all the while he was the most needed man in his 2 previous football programs prior to draft day.  My guess is that wasn't exclusive to just football but at home as the son of 2 wealthy parents. He was a brat even before his football talent synergized that quality. The biggest part of Manziel's improvement process (aside from treatment) IMO was getting him to understand that success at the PRO level isn't possible without commitment and preparation at a PRO level. Offensive players here this year look at him as a credible leader on the field if my perception to what I'm watching is accurate.</p>

<p>2) Understanding #1 - the following beneficiaries emerged: Gary Barnidge, Travis Benjamin, and Joe Thomas and Alex Mack (in pass pro).  We also had a promising rookie RB Duke Johnson presenting us with a nice prong of attack especially catching the ball.</p>

<p>3) The first 2 points mean we might actually some decent coaching going on at the following positions in particular: Tight End, Wide Receiver, QB, Offensive Line and RB. Let's hope Josh Gordon comes back with a better attitude than he had at the end of 2014; because adding him to Benjamin, Barnidge and Duke makes this a fun bunch to QB.  There's 1 more variable that has to work that we haven't had much luck with regarding Gordon. Maybe the full year without football with only so much time left to go after the dream salary finally works in our favor? If that doesn't light the fanny of Gordon AND greedy agent attached at the hip - the alternative becomes curtains on the chance to be a millionaire at something the guy is extremely talented at.  Difficult math?  Doesn't have to be.</p>

<p>4) Because this defense is one of the worst we've ever seen - there's some obvious things that can be corrected beginning with bringing in a more experienced DC like a Jim Schwartz.  Schwartz improved Buffalo's defense in 2014 to 4th overall from 20th overall in 2013 (under Pettine).  Buffalo's record also went from 6-10 in 2013 to 9-7 in 2014 so maybe a combination/blend of Pettine and Schwartz could improve the effect and success of varying our fronts.  In the process, Pettine wouldn't have to feel like he needs to babysit or hand hold a lesser experienced DC again.</p>

<p>5) This might invite some disagreement but what else is new coming from me?  I think it's time for Special Teams Coach Chris Tabor to get his walking papers.  I've seen enough of that continuity on Special Teams even though the premise of keeping some degree of continuity was a forgivable mistake.  I don't think we've ever had a 2-3 year trend of more flags on our return units for ill-advised blocks.  I can't remember if it was Brad Seeley or Ted Daisher or both - but we always seemed to have really respectable STs to the extent Josh Cribbs, Phil Dawson and Ryan Pontbriand made Pro Bowls. Outside of the Baltimore game, the 1 area of STs I didn't have any complaints about was our punt/kick coverage where Bademosi was awarded with a Pro Bowl invitation out of.  He may not be a very good corner at this time; but he is very talented at breaking a double-press outside as a punt coverage gunner.</p>

<p>6) Some young/inexperienced guys like Orchard, Gaines (like this kid), Cooper, Shelton and Campbell are getting some experience under their belts. Looking forward to seeing injured rookie CB  Ifo Ekpre-Olomu playing for us in 2016. I already mentioned Duke Johnson on the offensive side of the ball as well as our 22 year old QB if he stays.  Also worth noting was the pleasant surprise of how well Armonty Bryant bounced back from injury. </p>

<p>7) It seems pretty easy to see what side of the ball needs the most help in the draft and possibly in free agency (although I wouldn't complain if we added another offensive lineman at the top of round 2).  </p>

<p><img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f60e.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--sunglasses" title="8)" alt="😎" /> In order to get #7 right - Farmer needs to get his walking papers within 2 weeks.  He's the one guy that needs to go we all agreed on even when we argued whether Pettine deserved to be held as accountable.  While many might not agree with Bill Parcells' <em>"you are what your record says you are"</em> like I do - they might be more inclined to agree with is <em>"if you're going to judge me on the meal I cook - you better put me in charge of selecting the groceries for it." </em> I'd rather have Pettine getting a BIG say on the next corner we need from the research/film collected by our scouting dept in tandem with a better FO guy than having him feeling like he still needs to spend time getting O'Neil up to speed enough to teach the defense the way it needs to be taught so that all the players buy into it. That's what made an idea like an experienced DC like Jim Schwartz an easy one.</p>

<p>9) Injuries can't be any worse to us than they've been in 2014 and 2015. Yeah, I know <strong>all teams</strong> have injuries but ones trying to overcome 4-12 from 2013 (following the cumulative effect of bad drafting here since 1999) haven't really made progress possible. When people were trying to point this out to me in the last few weeks, I didn't realize I was actually most pissed that Mike Pettine wasn't a miracle worker (not to be confused with Head Coach). Definitely my bad.</p>

<p>That about wraps up my I'm okay with Pettine the Dawg.  I know I'm missing stuff so please feel free to add your points of agreement or disagreement. </p>

<p>Merry Christmas folks!</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/39074/starting-to-soften-on-keeping-pettine</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 08:59:58 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/39074.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:16:48 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:41:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/637448">said</a>:</p><div><p>I'm taking the last few years off from being an NFL QB.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Can you post your rookie card?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637569</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637569</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:41:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 05:08:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-user-from-cleveland" aria-label="Profile: the-user-from-cleveland">@<bdi>the-user-from-cleveland</bdi></a> <a href="/post/637125">said</a>:</p><p>He's taking the year off.</p></blockquote>
<p>How convenient.</p>

<p>I'm taking the last few years off from being an NFL QB.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637448</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637448</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2016 05:08:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 04:19:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/diehardbrownsfan" aria-label="Profile: diehardbrownsfan">@<bdi>diehardbrownsfan</bdi></a> <a href="/post/637297">said</a>:</p><div><p>So some young soft ass punk like  you hates him?  You still shitting yellow pussy?</p></div></blockquote>

<p>You wanted him fired. Hush up now.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637432</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637432</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wargograw]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2016 04:19:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 00:04:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/wargograw" aria-label="Profile: wargograw">@<bdi>wargograw</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636710">said</a>:</p><div><p>Would I have fired him? No(cause I love to suck cock), but the guy's terrible.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>your post makes no sense at all,did all that cock loving get into your head ?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637318</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637318</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[syd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2016 00:04:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:27:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/wargograw" aria-label="Profile: wargograw">@<bdi>wargograw</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636710">said</a>:</p><div><p>These old dorks love him because he looks and sounds like a Cleveland guy. He has no personality whatsoever. He talks about "toughness" while not letting thugs on his team. He's absolutely boring as all get out and so are his teams. No surprise there's still a faction of Browns fans bitter that he was fired. Would I have fired him? No, but the guy's terrible.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>So some young soft ass punk like  you hates him?  You still shitting yellow pussy?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637297</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637297</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[DieHardBrownsFan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:27:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:18:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I'm not an idiot so I don't make those kind of calls after two games. And plenty of people loved Pettine. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637289</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637289</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wargograw]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:18:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:25:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/wargograw" aria-label="Profile: wargograw">@<bdi>wargograw</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636710">said</a>:</p><div><p>These old dorks love him because he looks and sounds like a Cleveland guy. He has no personality whatsoever. He talks about "toughness" while not letting thugs on his team. He's absolutely boring as all get out and so are his teams. No surprise there's still a faction of Browns fans bitter that he was fired. Would I have fired him? No, but the guy's terrible.</p></div></blockquote>


<p>I don't think anyone loves him but take a quick look at Hue's job today.  Too many penalties, Mccown getting killed, young guys with 2 costly 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties, terrible challenge and complete lack of offense for 3 1/2 quarters, is he a terrible coach.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637140</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637140</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BaconHound]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:25:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:19:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636688">said</a>:</p><div><p>His head coaching record and the fact that he's just as employed by the NFL as we are currently would indicate otherwise.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>He's taking the year off.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/637125</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/637125</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The User from Cleveland]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:19:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:38:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>These old dorks love him because he looks and sounds like a Cleveland guy. He has no personality whatsoever. He talks about "toughness" while not letting thugs on his team. He's absolutely boring as all get out and so are his teams. No surprise there's still a faction of Browns fans bitter that he was fired. Would I have fired him? No, but the guy's terrible.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636710</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636710</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wargograw]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:38:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:31:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636617">said</a>:</p>

<p><strong>wrong.</strong></p>
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<p>His head coaching record and the fact that he's just as employed by the NFL as we are currently would indicate otherwise.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636688</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636688</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:31:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:02:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636617">said</a>:</p><div>

<p><strong>wrong.</strong></p>
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<p>only if your talking high school</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636621</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636621</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[syd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:02:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:46:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636603">said</a>:</p><div><p>Pettine was not a good coach.</p></div></blockquote>

<p><strong>wrong.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636617</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636617</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:46:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:45:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>who brought this dumbass thread back out of no where ?</p>
<p>why ? who fucking cares pettine was a fucking high school coach</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636616</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636616</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[syd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:45:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:33:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636603">said</a>:</p><div><p>Pettine was not a good coach. Resurrecting this thread doesn't change that.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>The man sent in the kicker to try a 60 yard FG with Devin Hester standing in the middle of the end zone.  It was kicked and Hester caught it right where he was standing.  The idiot Atlanta coach had called TO to ice the kicker...so what did brilliant Pettine do?  He kicked it again and it was ALMOST returned for a TD.</p>

<p>That's all you need to know, to know that Pettine was a bad coach because that's being about as stupid as stupid gets.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636615</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636615</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Orion]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:33:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:10:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636603">said</a>:</p><div><p>Pettine was not a good coach. Resurrecting this thread doesn't change that.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>No way to accurately evaluate Pettine based on the talent he had and in that same vein you can't properly evaluate Hue either.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636607</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636607</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BaconHound]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:10:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:09:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mudfly" aria-label="Profile: mudfly">@<bdi>mudfly</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636557">said</a>:</p><div><p><em>Virtually.</em>....that means there were very few.....including you.... <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></div></blockquote>


<p>And unfortunately the prize for being correct is watching another 3-13, 4-12 season.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636606</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636606</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BaconHound]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:09:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:05:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Pettine was not a good coach. Resurrecting this thread doesn't change that.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636603</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636603</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:05:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 14:03:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/baconhound" aria-label="Profile: baconhound">@<bdi>baconhound</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636555">said</a>:</p><div>


<p>You never stood alone on Pettine and the talentless 52</p>
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<p><em>Virtually.</em>....that means there were very few.....including you....<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636557</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636557</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 14:03:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 14:01:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mudfly" aria-label="Profile: mudfly">@<bdi>mudfly</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636319">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Yes, I do.....and, if you remember, this came after 2 months of me standing(virtually) alone against the whole lynch mob board, who INSISTED this team was LOADED with talent, that Pettine was misusing and, basically, ruining.....while I screamed to the heavens that it was talent talent talentless.....and everyone(including you) said it was coaching....and Farmer(Mr. Trade back).....</p>

<p>Yet....suddenly.....EVERYONE claims it was common knowledge and this strip HAD to happen....as if you all weren't just telling about all the great talent this team had JUST LAST FALL.....</p>

<p>Now, after reading that post, in which you're talking defense and our extensive needs on defense.....yet, we draft 4 WR's and you're like thats GREAT!......and when you're screaming to fire Farmer, then post how Shashi gets the amazing idea to trade back for quantity and how billiant that is....sheesh</p>

<p>I took heaps of shit for defending Pettine and saying it was talent..<em><strong>.heaps of shit</strong></em>.....yet, NOW, its basically the prevailing thought that "everyone knew this team didnt have talents, blah blah blah"....my ass....what a load of crap....</p>

<p>I took heaps of shit on pointing out how shitty Kruger was and spent, god only knows how many hours, hearing you guys(yeah you) pointing out how good Kruger was and that Pettine and Oneill just didnt know how to use him(or Shelton), cause god only knows Shelton was bad because Pettine rotated him in and out, cause him to be tired from running to the sideline(yep, that was you too).....YET, this year, it AGAIN is the prevailing thought that everyone knew this and it was a GREAT move by Shashi to cut Kruger......and Shelton, even when he's not being rotated in and out, looks pretty much the same....</p>

<p>Blah blah blah....</p>

<p>Believe me....I remember these talks too and Ive been on the opposing side WAY more....and, for the most part, my arguments have PROVEN OUT to be correct....And, unlike Ghoolie, I dont usually go on an "i TOLD YA SO RANT"....But, IF i DID, it would be a very very long diatribe.......</p>

<p>So....sorry if Im not crazy about Hue or Shashi, sorry if my observations go against the grain, sorry if I dont see great talent, where others apparently do.....but Im not gonna start playing the company line because you guys cant stand to hear quality observations that miss the mark you are aiming for....</p>

<p>Contradiction contradiction contradiction.... </p>
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<p>You never stood alone on Pettine and the talentless 52</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636555</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636555</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BaconHound]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 14:01:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 10:23:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/flugel" aria-label="Profile: flugel">@<bdi>flugel</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636309">said</a>:</p>

<p>Remember this thread I started Mud?</p>
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<p><img src="http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1565/15655342/3085588-6833992416-70412.jpg" alt="3085588-6833992416-70412.jpg" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636501</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636501</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jbluhm86]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 10:23:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:44:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tiamat63" aria-label="Profile: tiamat63">@<bdi>tiamat63</bdi></a> <a href="/post/562256">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Won't happen barring a Scrooge level Christmas heart turn around or threatening Pettine's job.   It would require a rather dramatic departure from our schematic approach to his defense.</p>

<p><strong>Which is sad because I firmly believe in the hands of Schwartz this defense could be quite good. </strong></p>
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<p>*ahem*</p>

<p>I'll beat this horse LONG after it's dead.  </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636382</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636382</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tiamat63]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:44:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:54:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636355">said</a>:</p><div><p>Flugs... told you Mud was calling you out...</p></div></blockquote>

<p>I'm very happy for you today even if your guilt trip remains without passenger.  </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636364</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636364</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:54:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:26:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Flugs... told you Mud was calling you out...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636355</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636355</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:26:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Starting to Soften on Keeping Pettine on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:54:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mudfly" aria-label="Profile: mudfly">@<bdi>mudfly</bdi></a> <a href="/post/636319">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Yes, I do.....and, if you remember, this came after 2 months of me standing(virtually) alone against the whole lynch mob board, who INSISTED this team was LOADED with talent, that Pettine was misusing and, basically, ruining.....while I screamed to the heavens that it was talent talent talentless.....and everyone(including you) said it was coaching....and Farmer(Mr. Trade back).....</p>

<p>Yet....suddenly.....EVERYONE claims it was common knowledge and this strip HAD to happen....as if you all weren't just telling about all the great talent this team had JUST LAST FALL.....</p>

<p>Now, after reading that post, in which you're talking defense and our extensive needs on defense.....yet, we draft 4 WR's and you're like thats GREAT!......and when you're screaming to fire Farmer, then post how Shashi gets the amazing idea to trade back for quantity and how billiant that is....sheesh</p>

<p>I took heaps of shit for defending Pettine and saying it was talent..<em><strong>.heaps of shit</strong></em>.....</p>
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<p>We drafted 2 edge rushers early in our 2016 draft priority and cut Kruger while getting exchange value for Mingo's football instincts of a raccoon crossing the highway at night time.   It wasn't exactly brilliant intellect that went into cutting Pryor last year only to bring him back so late - he got very little game experience and development. We also drafted a couple LBers and 2 DBs.  Kindred impressed me while Schobert didn't look bad in his first action. </p>

<p>I'm not going to pretend I didn't veer into wanting Pettine gone for a brief period when I thought he lost some very important veteran support on this team he previously earned/built up in 2014. That said, it was only about 5 weeks of the 2 years (32 games) he was here.  I began 2015 only pissed at Farmer and didn't start changing my tune on Pettine until after the Cincy game in November whether I was right or wrong in doing so. My frustration with O'Neil was way longer. You did a great job of bringing me back around on Pettine.</p>

<p>Nobody is asking you to not be frustrated with what you dealt with any more than they have been asking you to predict flawless football in 2016. People that enjoy your loyalty and passion just like seeing you with a game face but I promise there will be no pistols to your temple while you are in wait and see mode. Again, I compliment about 98-99% of your posts because you make it easy to do that.  You're one of the best posters I've ever read in my cyberspace existence that began in 1998 so I respect your opinions more than you think. I thought you and I had a great conversation a few weeks ago when you clarified what you're frustrated with and why you remain passionate about it. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/636335</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/636335</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:54:12 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>