@the-gipper said:

You forgot one thing: I win!

You sure do, buddy

@roycerolls said:

You forgot one thing: I win!

One [of many] problems we had all season was the run game.. because he kept playing 2 players who had abysmal runblock grades - Johnson and [insert TE here].

So why did he not play a 6th, maybe 7th OL every play and have the passes only caught by WR? And yes, either line up or motion Barnidge into a WR spot.. because he did that anyway.

If Johnson had trouble sealing the LB.. that MLB is a twig for Pasztor.

And when you assert it doesn't work... the Redskins just made the playoffs doing exactly that, and NFL Live ran a few minute feature on their protection of Cousins.

@tour2ma said:

I am not confusing a goddamn thing. But you clearly are.

DePodestra was/is the leader/pioneer in what the fuck ever it is that he does. People say that is "analytics". I don't care what its called.

But whatever IT is.....he is the acknowledged expert in it. And the owner of the Browns thought enough of him and what the fuck ever it is he does to hire him on.

Maybe IT just doesn't fit into whatever pigeonhole you think it should be placed in.

@tour2ma said:

conflating-is that when you blow in it a little before you screw it?

VesnaKociper said:

word on the street now is n. korea has depodcasters and flying cars, let alone the finest bowling alleys on the planet.

@the-gipper said:

... and the recognized pioneer in this field because?[/color]

And now you're conflating organizational dynamics with Sabermetrics... lmao...

Believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, Gip... you usually do.

@medicineman said:

With the shape the Browns are in right now you would think the New coach would want in writing that he needs the very least 3 full seasons to get this mess turned around. And Why is it when we do draft the qb of our future we have him ride the bench for a season while he is watching an over the hill never was and the very next year we bring in another loser to train the new qb, smh

They get that in the form of a contract. They all get paid for the duration of it despite whether or not we relieve them of duty.

@tour2ma said:

@mudfly said:

@the-gipper said:

But your conclusion was a simple: it can't work.....because I don't think it could work in the line I am in.

First....I have no clue if it could work in your line or not.

Second...you think it won't work for the Browns.....but you don't know.

So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:

"It may or may not work. I don't really know".

As is often the case, Gip, you completely miss a point and then cling to your miss... so let me restate what I said.

I spent a third of my career studying organizational dynamics and applying them to my employer. The application was specific, but the knowledge gained was universal because the dynamics are universal.

There is no "one organization fits all" model, but the factors that determine the success or failure of any organization are universal. So far there are two major flaws in our new organization. That they are there may not guarantee failure, but they do decrease the chances of success.

@the-gipper said:

Well....apparently not.....because that would require us to speculate on the possibility that the new system wouldnt work and it would require us to discuss both sides of what they are doing(because thats what "debate" is).....and you dont seem to like that very much.

Should we just lick Haslem or Shashis dick and call it a day?

@the-gipper said:

So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:

"It may or may not work. I don't really know".

Doesnt sound like much of an answer to me.................(or interesting discussion ftm)....

Lets see how it goes......"I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know......I dont know"

Meh....Im bored already.....

@tour2ma said:

But your conclusion was a simple: it can't work.....because I don't think it could work in the line I am in.

First....I have no clue if it could work in your line or not.

Second...you think it won't work for the Browns.....but you don't know.

So....the real answer that I want to hear from any of you is:

"It may or may not work. I don't really know".

@tour2ma said:

Obviously you can bring questions up and debate the whole concept of what they are doing but for anyone to repeat the mantra:

This won't work. I know it

This won't work. I know it.

This won't work. I know it.

They are just being an asshat.

I repeat:

They are just being an asshat.

I repeat:

They are just being an asshat.

@the-gipper said:

Not much.

Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.

lol... whatever, Gip...

@tour2ma said:

Not much.

Point is: Whatever work experience you have is no basis for All y'all to criticize the manner in which the Browns are to be structured....or to claim for goddamn certainty that what they are doing will not work.

@tour2ma said:

How do I do that? I've sent and received PMs before, so not sure why it would be off.

@the-gipper said:

But, you claimed to know the future because of your knowledge. Ergo...you are admitting your knowledge is limited....and not applicable beyond what you have actually done.

Trivia time? I was the President of the Board of Trustees for several years of a Public Service legal firm.

You think football players and whatever you do are difficult to manage? Try managing lawyers (Union organized lawyers no less)

Ergo? That is as twisted logic as you have ever posted. Spotting a dysfunctional Org Chart in the present has zero in common with predicting random numbers in the future.

Out of curiosity though... How much day-today contact does a Board President have with the group of lawyers employed by the legal firm?