@westside-steve said:

It would seem to be more suited for free agents than the college draft, just because of the variables in college football.

Maybe I'm wrong but I would imagine the dedication personality etc wouldn't be measured on the calculator as easily.

Agree... more data should lead to better evaluations of play, but I think finding middling FA's that thrive in certain roles/situations may be the approach's greatest strength.

Measuring personal characteristics is always going to be more subjective, but systematic testing and interviewing can yield crunchable data that ends up being useful.

I really thought 2 years ago Farmer and Pettine might be the ones to lead this club out of the cellar. For me the last straw with Ray was the Bowe signing. Terrible. I still think Pettine is a class HC but when your record is 3-18 in the last 21 games I can't fault Haslam for making a change.

Haslam is trying something new this time with the analytics approach and I like the idea we are exploring some new avenues and not just following the same path of just constant changing of head coaches and GM's. One of the criticisms has been the wash and repeat of what has been going on since 99 so I like us exploring other areas to improve and analytics seems to be the cutting edge way to go right now in sports.

As others pointed out my concern is the new management approach. I like the analytics part but not so sure about this new management style.

We did have something of an analytic approach with our qb search a few years ago with a $100,000 study that concluded we should take Bridgewater but we took JM instead.

@tour2ma said:

No doubt it can. Initially it was only applied to batting in baseball... then came pitching... and now fielding. It's a matter of resources accumulating data and crunching the numbers.

It would seem to be more suited for free agents than the college draft, just because of the variables in college football.

Maybe I'm wrong but I would imagine the dedication personality etc wouldn't be measured on the calculator as easily.

WSS

@mark-o said:

Can it work in football, I have no idea but I don't see why not.

No doubt it can. Initially it was only applied to batting in baseball... then came pitching... and now fielding. It's a matter of resources accumulating data and crunching the numbers.

@tour2ma said:

And the fact that the A's are competitive each year despite being a small market team with a shittty stadium situation proves that it can work, at least in baseball. Can it work in football, I have no idea but I don't see why not.

While the A's have been at the forefront of Sabermetrics, they were also alone for years. So ultimately it was them against the field... and yes, the field held them at bay. But...

Along came the Boston Red Sox who hired Bill James, Mr. Sabermetrics, in 2002 and three championships followed.

As many as a third of MLB teams are openly on the metrics train... and quietly use them.

The field is getting smaller...

@bbedward said:

if you have tivo, hopefully you taped todays show...they had joe banner on and basically what i got out of it was he said that it will be hard for any decent coach to want to get involved the way the browns are going...yes he is analytical and knows nothing about the game. he said he uses stats to determine if players are too old and need to be replaced...that is dangerous. this sounds like money ball and that don't work....this isn't baseball... actually in the end, it did not work for baseball either....

@clevfan4life said:

Wadsworth Nevada maybe......at least if you go there and don't find one you can head over to Reno and be certain to do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadsworth,_Nevada

@miktoxic said:

there's a chicks with dicks show in wadsworth? Well go on then mik, tell us moar about how you know this....lmao.

@miktoxic said:

Be careful about who you laughing at.

@miktoxic said:

There are none of those in Wadsworth....too conservative. You have to go to Akron to find them. Or Dobb's Ferry.

@miktoxic said:

sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

@d-bone said:

I'll still take Ken Jennings.

@jiggins7919 said:

LMAO

@the-gipper said:

IBM (analytics humor)

Here's another thing guys...Farmer was BAD. And not just bad, he was an arrogant ass clown that couldn't find his Johnson with both hands and a road map. How many starters did he produce in two drafts? How many impact free agents did he acquire? How did he improve our team? Oh, that's right, he didn't. So now we have a new process, and new personnel. Can these men do a WORSE job? I'm sure they could, but I don't see it happening. To me, Farmer was garbage and my Aunt Maurine would be a freaking upgrade (this is the woman that raises goldfish and calls them her children btw)

So Denver, still want Joe Thomas for a first rounder? Let's go. Goodbye Mingo. Goodbye Bowe. Let's get younger and tougher. Let's lay a foundation in place, and start to build around some young talent. We draft Bosa, or hopefully Jalyn Smith. Our injured young CB comes back healthy and owns. Haden is back to form, as well as K'Waun and Tramon backing us up. Orchard and Shelton make strides, and all the sudden we have some pieces in place. We start McCown next year, with a young draft selection learning all year (Wentz in second round). We support.the team as always, we cheer loudly, and we hope we get it RIGHT. It's time. It's PAST time. Let's go, dammit!

@deputydawg said:

I'm hoping Tour that they will discuss and be sensible and mature about it.

I hear ya... problem is that if hope was a plan then both Pet and Farmer might still have jobs.

@jrb12711 said:

I just realized myself that this was a hire from within.

@bbedward said:

That's next level, I hadn't thought that far.

@d-bone said:

I'd prefer Watson

lol.. and you'd only need him part time...

@tiamat63 said:

So Sashi has been negotiating contracts?

Can he explain why we didn't bother to resign Buster or Sheard? Especially the latter seeing as how we'd be in need of a pass rusher of his mold soon.

Hey he landed Bowe didn't he?

Just bothers me when agents start praising our negotiator...

But back to his new role... How exactly is he going to break ties between 2 football guys?

@clevfan4life said:

I really don't think anyone considers this a steal though? No one is bouncing off the walls but this article at least explains the guy wasn't just some suit reading legal documents. Hell, most people on here should admit including me they didn't even know this guy was in the FO yet alone his talent level.

It's certainly a bit odd but just because a guy has final roster decisions doesn't mean he's a crazy bastard who will not listen to people. How the rest of the staff rounds out will go a long way to how I feel.