@osiris said:

As a wise actress once said - 'As every housewife knows, the first check you write is for the mortgage. The second is for the insurance...'

VesnaKociper said:

You've got some anger issues clouding your judgement here. The FO didn't say he's the only important piece. He said an important piece. Everyone in the NFL thinks a good left tackle is important. That's why there's a good chance Tunsil is the #1 pick tihs year. It just isn't as important as the guy he's supposed to protect from getting sacked. That's going to be whatever QB we pick up in the upcoming draft. So chill out and give this administration a chance. They've already done more right by cutting Manziel than the whole last administration did.

@the-gipper said:

And Swartz on the other side to try to slow down Miller.

VesnaKociper said:

Well, he will be important.....whether you like it or not.

The problem is the other 10 important pieces.

Tom Brady would be playing in the Super Bowl this week if he had Joe Thomas blocking for him.

VesnaKociper said:

Yep. I'm so excited I just took a fucking tour in my drawers. Man it stinks.

VesnaKociper said:

(Hey...Ghoolie...its getting old. These are not the droids you are looking for. Move along)

@logicisforsquares said:

I'm seeing more of Sam-I-am.

I am ghoolie

ghoolie I am

that ghoolie i am

that ghoolie i am

i do not like that

ghoolie i am

do you like any

offensive lineman?

I do not like them

ghoolie I am

VesnaKociper said:

I am sorry, but you guys are missin the biggest news. Joe Thomas is going to be a BIG piece of this going forward. FUCK man, I have goosebumps.

These guys don't have a fucking clue.

Yes we know you don't like offensive linemen, Rainman.

VesnaKociper said:

It wasn't missed, most folks here are super happy.

@thenew23 said:

Not surprising... All 3 examples I listed included getting a new coach, solid QB, and acquiring a few key FAs...

Hmmm...

I see more "rebound" than turnaround. None more obvious than the Manningless 2011 Colts.

With the exception of your 49er example, teams you listed did not have long strings of miserable performance prior to the crash that preceded their "turnaround". They were "competitive" so it would appear a nucleus was in place. May not be the case with us.

2010 Colts were 10-6 after a long string of 12+ win seasons.

2009 49ers were 8-8 after years of sub-500.

2006 Falcons were 7-9 after 8 and 11 win seasons.

2006 Ravens won 11 games.

2004 Saints won 8, and 8, 9, 7 and 10 games the previous 4 seasons

5-11 to 11-5

Harbaugh + Flacco (and Rice)

2005-2006 Saints

3-13 to 10-6

Peyton + Brees

I don't think I need to continue to make my point...

4-12 to 11-5

New coach- Mike Smith

Draft- QB (Ryan), OT, WR, CB, S

FAs- RB, DE

Coach + QB again...

Hmmm...

6-10 to 13-3

New coach- Harbaugh

Draft: DE, and QB

FAs: OL, 2 LBs

Re-signed: QB, DE, S

2-14 to 11-5

New coach- Pagano

Draft #1 QB, 2 TEs, and a star WR

FAs - vet WR, NT, DE, and #1 CB

2-14 to 11-5

New Coach - Reid

Trade for QB - Smith

Draft - OT, TE (Kelce), backup RB

FAs - FS, OT (re-sign), WR (re-sign). Vet WR, 2 LBs, and 2 CBs (and many other mid-level depth players)

@texasag1969 said:

I share one thing with DePodesta. We both have a background in bioinformatics analysis. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that gut reactions are frowned upon at least explicitly trained out of anyone who is going to be performing any kind of statistical or informatics-based analysis.

@texasag1969 said:

And how does that apply now as we see the lean of the Browns towards going with a QB @ #2 overall this early in the process and well before the analytics are done? They have not yet studied the new assignment too determine what made for turnarounds, but yet there has been a lot of info out there towards a QB. Hmmmmm. Will they really let the process make that decision or will they do another Holgren gut decision?

And will they look at key draft picks before the turnarounds? Hope so. I think they will find a lot of defensive picks there. But just my gut reaction.

Still a lot of time left to flesh out the study, but it is possible that step one was:

- Clear out all distractions.

@texasag1969 said:

I think it's a symptom of you either have a franchise QB or you're looking for one. If they think Goff (or Lynch or Wentz) is that guy, you have to take them at #2 this year. You have a guy in McCown who could hold the job down for the year if need be but is also very willing (his words and actions show this) to be the mentor and even the #2 guy to help a young QB along. I'd probably lean towards just throwing whoever it is out there week 1 and we can sink or swim with him this year.

@ballpeen said:

And how does that apply now as we see the lean of the Browns towards going with a QB @ #2 overall this early in the process and well before the analytics are done? They have not yet studied the new assignment too determine what made for turnarounds, but yet there has been a lot of info out there towards a QB. Hmmmmm. Will they really let the process make that decision or will they do another Holgren gut decision?

And will they look at key draft picks before the turnarounds? Hope so. I think they will find a lot of defensive picks there. But just my gut reaction.

@mark-o said:

And of course the ego that has to be suppressed most of all is that of the owner. But then he is the guy that brought all these guys in....so, maybe: Mission Accomplished?

(Premature Ejaculatory statement? Just like W?)

@ballpeen said:

I completely agree. They're going to be making decisions based on a wide variety of factors and there won't be someone's ego making the choice and that should avoid the Weeden and Manziel and other mistakes that have been made over the years.