@jrb12711 said:

Without knowing contract situations, if Denver's defense keeps most of those guys all they need is above average QB play to have a real shot again next season.

@canton-dawg said:

Without knowing contract situations, if Denver's defense keeps most of those guys all they need is above average QB play to have a real shot again next season.

Both Manning and Brady are getting long of tooth, and are in the twilight of their career's.

If both QB's retire, what are the odds that these 2 teams will make it back to the post season?

@texasag1969 said:

Safety play means little when you have Ware, Miller, Wolfe, Jackson & co pressuring Brady nearly every drop back.

Seriously, I haven't seen a pass rush do that to Brady since XLII.

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Old cheer from when I was in HS....always remembered it. (Insert the name of my High School....who were the Panthers...for the original)

@chicopee-john said:

I grew up on Courtney Circle if you know where that is.

@osiris said:

OK Know all those areas pretty well. Actually had relatives grow up on Shipman Drive in Glastonbury.

@chicopee-john said:

Framingham now. Grew up in CT(Glastonbury and Farmington).

@osiris said:

Amen to that--even with the 2 starting safeties out late in the game they were still lights out in the crunch.

@osiris said:

Where do you live. I am from Chicopee, MA but now live in South Windsor, CT.

@bbedward said:

I live in NE, and I don't hate the patriots but even some of my friends who are Pats fans acknowledge they're a spoiled bunch. Watching that Denver defense was brutal on both New England and every Browns fan who now sees how far we have to go on defense.

"Bad times" aka losing an AFC championship after winning the super bowl.

@mark-o said:

Most surprised by the AFC game - especially with Denver's struggles against a beat up Pittspuke team. All things considered, it will be a nice sendoff for Manning - win or lose.

I thought the NFC game could go either way but, once again, surprised by the score. Don't see how anybody can denigrate Cam Newton (on field). Sure he can run but he, also, has a cannon arm.

I always lean toward the AFC teams in the SB, but not always. I need to let this one simmer for a couple of weeks before deciding.

@miktoxic said:

Problem is we have so many overrated, overpaid D players, that we need to clean a bunch out and start over. D still gets you to the playoffs. With Mary Jane coming back at WR, we will bet the bank on no relapse I'm guessing.

@miktoxic said:

I'm as pissed off as anybody that we've invested so much in the D already and look what we got for it. That being said our offense isn't nearly the problem that the defense is. Only position on offense i'd like to see with our first pick is "maybe" an O lineman. If that D isn't fixed anything we do on offense is a waste.

@htownbrown said:

huge believer in that myself, but considering we went D-heavy the last 2-3 drafts and basically either stayed the same or regressed, if we don't pick a QB and WR this year early, i'm gonna flip!

@htownbrown said:

yup- but it helps if you have a Manning, Brady, Newton. or Palmer.

probably only take the Browns another three seasons to get a defense as good as the Panthers.