@the-gipper said:

Ive kind of reset the clock on Gordon and think of him(now) as just another rookie/draft pick coming into camp.....except he doesnt have the uncertainty of whether he can play in this league....just the uncertainty of whether he can keep himself free of drugs

Lots of college kids are picked that have baggage, so he's no different.....he's a year removed from any semblance of trouble, so he's getting my support.....and I think his light went off and he will keep his nose clean.....(otherwise, Id guess he would have already blew it)

@brownpile said:

That is why I am in it for Bosa. All along everyone has considered him the consensus #1 pick......but now that time goes on people overthink these things.

The Tits may take Bosa....they probably should....unless they say that they need that OT Tunsil to protect their investment in Mariota. And that could be a very good move for them. That leaves Bosa for us.......the guy who all along has been claimed the best football player in this draft......and not some overrated 2d round QBs.

@texasag1969 said:

I would not want to count on Gordon....but to pair him with a good rookie......like Doctson ....or somebody.

past the #2 pick, I was lost. It's impossible at this point to even guess much. This draft is going to amazing

and fun.

Sometimes, I wonder if the Browns might go defense with their #2 pick, draft Kevin Hogan

with the second rounder, and then go wr for a couple of rounds.

Then, I reverse that, and

dammit. This draft is going to kick ass. I hope Flugels can make it up to Ohio !

@the-gipper said:

If they draft a QB with first pick, I doubt a WR is picked next.

This team needs defense more than anything else - including a QB.

However, the offensive-minded coaching hires and Haslam statements make a QB pick seem inevitable.

@calfoxwc said:

So, Tour, you know a ton of stuff, how do you think the Browns draft position wise the first four rounds?

First, glad the knee is coming along, but sorry to hear pain is still in the picture.

Second, the draft... really early still and all I have to go on is the FirstPick sim, but as happens every year I end up with one or more picks stuck in a desert. Usually it's in the later rounds, but this year it seems to be that early, round-three pick. At least going so early there is always a trade down option.

But as I said, still early and there are plenty of names to learn

Tyler Boyd is great value in the second round I think. Comes from a pro-style O. Has caught the ball, run the ball, and returned both kicks and punts plenty. Also 6'2" 200.

I'm starting to like what I see in Kenyon Drake.

@the-gipper said:

Me too-but I'd rather count on JG and take my favorite power game runner......can you guess?........LOL...........Henry. Just remember..... pro bowler Lockett was my fav last year.

I got 120 degrees today, with a little help from the pt assistant, helping me

get to that point by pushing on my foot and calf.

Hurts like hell, but I'm progressing excellently.

So, Tour, you know a ton of stuff, how do you think the Browns draft

position wise the first four rounds?

I just want a top wr. Tyler Lockett is in the pro bowl from round 3 in the draft, and he

is only 5'10".

Braxton Miller is what, 6'1" ? I think he may very well run a 4.4, too. If he makes it to the third round,

I'll be shocked.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/insider/story/_/id/14661738/braxton-miller-shows-rare-skill-set-senior-bowl-nfl-draft

@calfoxwc said:

Just wondering, since surely a wr is the pick at 32.

I thought you said you were out of pain meds...

If Braxton Miller wows them at the combine, and can return kicks

like a pro, Physial, very, very fast and quick....

wouldn't he be maybe to the Browns, what Antonio Ihatehim Brown is to the squealers?

He's explosive, etc. Just wondering, since surely a wr is the pick at 32.

@poplarbluffman said:

I see Doctson as a possibility at our #32 pick.

@calfoxwc said:

there is a reason I have Doctson as my #1 wr

high in all3 rankings

nfldraftresearch.com fun to play with..thanks to the poster who posted the info/site

pff college looking at micro stats didn't rank Wentz a 1st rd qb....

IMO Goff is easily the best followed by Lynch and Wentz but those are very close in my rankings and both top 15 selections

@wargograw said:

Ragland now squarely on Tour's radar. Me likey.

lol... I'm looking. Given our need up the middle you have to. All I think I said was so far I don't see a Kuechley.

I don't get the explosiveness numbers.

?

http://www.2016nfldraftwidereceiverrankings.com/

@bbedward said:

Well we agree on that. He was the flavor of the month before the bowl game. But I didn't even like his play in the big win over Ole Miss.

Daniel Jeremiah has Wentz just ahead of Goff in his list.

Way early. Come on, NFL combine !

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000624732/article/ranking-top-50-prospects-for-2016-nfl-draft

@tour2ma said:

Not surprising to me

I don't like Lynch at all - at least in the first round.