<![CDATA[The Morning Roast]]>http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/200...ts/mj846117.txt

By MIKE PERRY

mperry@MorningJournal.com

REGARDLESS of the fact that a person is innocent until proven guilty, Stallworth had a blood alcohol content well over the legal limit in Florida and, while driving with this blood alcohol content, struck and killed a pedestrian.

It does not matter if Stallworth hires a brilliant attorney that might get him off on a technicality, or that he might be offered a plea deal and spend some time talking to kids about the dangers of driving drunk — the man killed another man. He was impaired and should not have been behind the wheel, but Mario Reyes was the one who paid for Stallworth's immaturity, recklessness and idiocy.

Word is that Stallworth is devastated over what happened, that he is extremely upset and remorseful. Try telling that to Mario Reyes' family.

What kind of an organization do the Browns want to be? If it's all about football, all about wins and losses, maybe they will want to hang on to Stallworth, try to spin doctor their way into keeping one of the most experienced receivers on their roster.

If that's the case, any day we can expect the "Donte Stallworth is a member of the Cleveland Browns family and we will support him through this difficult time" statement from the team. What they should do is release him with a statement that says "We, the Cleveland Browns organization, want our players to be productive on the field while being positive members of the community away from the stadium. Donte' Stallworth does not fit into that image. We wish him well."

Don't hold your breath.

Jay Cutler is now a Chicago Bear. Now all the people clamoring for him to end up in Cleveland can move on to the next item on their unrealistic wish list.

Cutler would have been a terrible fit in Cleveland, though he probably would have fit right in with the quarterbacks on the current roster. Just think, Cutler and his petulant foot-stomping, tantrum throwing personality could have joined Derek Anderson, with his fragile ego and non-existent self-confidence. Add to that Brady Quinn, who has become a favorite of the fans while ticking off most of his teammates in the locker room.

Instead of a quarterbacks coach the Browns could hire a quarterbacks psychiatrist.

The Bears gave up a pair of first-round draft picks, the No. 18 overall this season and their top pick next year, along with their third-round pick this season (No. 84 overall) and Kyle Orton for Cutler and the Broncos' fifth-round pick this season.

What were the Bears thinking?

Denver received a solid starting quarterback in Orton. He was much maligned in Chicago but had a decent season in 2008, throwing for 2,972 yards and 18 touchdowns (with 12 interceptions). Now the Broncos can use the draft to rebuild their defense and they get an extra first-rounder next season to boot.

The Bears will be a much-improved team this season, but down the road they are going to regret this deal.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/3951/the-morning-roastRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 04:26:49 GMTFri, 03 Apr 2009 11:36:37 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:30:54 GMT]]>BTW, why is Shaun Smith still on this team?

Good question.....though the possible answer may upset some people.

It's not that I take the unpopular position Riff...I take the neutral position on many matters and play the devils advocate.

In most cases there are two sides to the coin, though too often the rush to judgment crowd doesn't give the other side any consideration at all.

This is pretty common.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58564https://brownsboard.com/post/58564Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:30:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:01:11 GMT]]>Peens always takes the more controversial or unpopular side, it's in his blood. Anybody that is a regular poster should know that by now.

Queen has never given any indication of being a nob and if the only evidence outside of Lumsford's fairy tales is the Shaun Smith fiasco that's a shame. Queen is simply a pretty boy who has done well for himself. They are not always popular with the haters and the fact he went to ND didn't help anything.

BTW, why is Shaun Smith still on this team? I have a feeling he was more of a problem on that team than we know. I called it during camp last year the guy could be a problem cuz he can't shut his freaking mouth. He also takes plays off and is a total embarrassment on that show they let him on with Andre Knott and Mary Kay.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58542https://brownsboard.com/post/58542Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:01:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:47:40 GMT]]>Before you toss out those bombs insinuating he's a locker room problem, maybe a little facts to go with them would make it a little more creditable.

I am not trying to lob bombs....please don't take it as such.

Nope...there is nothing to link and nothing concrete in print....as I said...some undercurrents and some comments from some people who i trust and who have been proven correct way more than not.....I know...that falls in to one of those deals.....It's just a FYI.

And again...I am not sticking up for Smith at all...but normal conduct by a teammate doesn't usually include hitting a guy in the mouth the first time he says something....kidding or otherwise. I tend to believe there is a little more to the story than is being told.

JMO.

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@reno said:

Add to that Brady Quinn, who has become a favorite of the fans while ticking off most of his teammates in the locker room.

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/200...ts/mj846117.txt

Hmmmm....He didn't elaborate on the single line you quoted from the article.

The only thing worth while in that entire article was his question to the Bears..."What were you thinking?"

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@ballpeen said:

I don't know man...there has been an undercurrent of him not being the top guy in the clubhouse.

I am not going to say the guy is disliked, but I don't think he is the most popular guy with the other players.

I am not sticking up for Sean Smith here, but you don't bust a teammates lips the first time he says something out of line. There had to be some level of tension prior to that happening.

peen,

That's a hell of a stretch. Smith is renouned for being the biggest trash talker on the team. He even got into pushing match with Joe Thomas in practice. Know does that make Joe Thomas a possible problem. "underrcurrent" in the clubhouse caused by Quinn, come on. That's what they call a pure speculative innuendo.

I was introduced to Brady at the Kelly Pavlik fight in Youngstown. He was there with A. J. Hawk, his sister (Hawk's wife), Tucker, Fraley and a few other people. He was great to the fans, signed autographs and was a little embarrassed that he was a distraction between fights and during an undercard fight. He acted like an ordinary joe and not some prima donna. He was talking to us about working with Dabol and how much Dabol's system was like Weis's and couldn't wait for OTAs.

Before you toss out those bombs insinuating he's a locker room problem, maybe a little facts to go with them would make it a little more creditable.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58484https://brownsboard.com/post/58484Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:45:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:25:36 GMT]]>yea if he is such a hated person in the locker room why did the hardest working guy we have had in cleveland since we came back in winslow endorse him as our starting qb. Maybe because like winslow the kid just wants to win and he lets people like shaun smith who i believe is lazy know that he thinks that... when other qbs call out teamates there leaders when quinn does it hes a disturbance

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@dirty-hands said:

I'm not on here as much as i'd like to be so pardon me if this is just common sense. What did Quinn do to piss his teammates off?

He spoke/was at McCain's rally during the election. It's ok to do that, as long as it's for the Democrat candidate.

Yeah, he really sucks as a human. I hear about how he signs autographs, says the right thing, doesn't complain. I don't know what kind of team would want someone with those characteristics.

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@lumbergh said:

nobody else got punched in the face but BQ.

We forgot that you come from the place that thinks a Tonya Harding-level cheap shot is honorable. Did you hear what the Oregon State fan said to his pumpkin after he carved it's mouth? "Damn I wish I had this many teeth pretty boy!"

Just remember Lancelot - you're first loyalty in Camelot was to the Queen!

- Tom F.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58465https://brownsboard.com/post/58465Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:00:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 05:25:20 GMT]]>Both Quinn and DA spent a good 30 minutes after the training camp session I attended with my family last summer signing autographs. The session ended when coaches came and broke it up. They were both joking (along with Dorsey) and seemed to get along just fine while on the field.

That day all the QB's stayed extra to work with staff on extra throwing reps. They worked hard, looked like teamates with smiles and jokes around, and as I said stayed extra to sign autographs for the legions.

None of them came off as a bit aloof that day. Just young men living the dream of being an NFL QB.

Lum's an asshat.

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Steeler SChuck said:

dirty, dirty Cleveland

Los Angeles is infamous for the worst US air quality, but actually ranked number two. Anybody care to guess who number ONE is?

Regards.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58400https://brownsboard.com/post/58400Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:05:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:56:21 GMT]]>Let's see - one guy in dirty, dirty Cleveland thinks Stallworth's a piece of dung, Quinn's an immature kid and (not mentioned, I think) Bray-yawn wants traded to the Giants.

This is better than watching the Stooges.

Regards

.... an'at

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@reginabrownsfan said:

Wait a minute you asked Quinn for his autograph? Your nothing but a BQ fag after all!

Given his current fascination with DA I'm sure by "autograph" he meant "plaster his tonsils with mayo" and I can sure see Quinn shooting that one down in a hurry.

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@lumbergh said:

he's a prick.

If you run into him in person, stop him and ask for his autograph. Then you'll see why people don't like him.

Wait a minute you asked Quinn for his autograph? Your nothing but a BQ fag after all!

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Please close and delete this duplicate thread.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58305https://brownsboard.com/post/58305Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:17:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:15:32 GMT]]> nobody else got punched in the face but BQ.

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@reno said:

Add to that Brady Quinn, who has become a favorite of the fans while ticking off most of his teammates in the locker room.

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/200...ts/mj846117.txt

Isn't this already in a thread of its own?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58302https://brownsboard.com/post/58302Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:11:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:08:11 GMT]]>Add to that Brady Quinn, who has become a favorite of the fans while ticking off most of his teammates in the locker room.

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/200...ts/mj846117.txt

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58300https://brownsboard.com/post/58300Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:08:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:40:15 GMT]]>That could be.

Time will tell the tale i suppose.

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@shepwrite said:

Quinn is a noted good guy well liked by teammates at every level. Sorry.

I don't know man...there has been an undercurrent of him not being the top guy in the clubhouse.

I am not going to say the guy is disliked, but I don't think he is the most popular guy with the other players.

I am not sticking up for Sean Smith here, but you don't bust a teammates lips the first time he says something out of line. There had to be some level of tension prior to that happening.

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@lumbergh said:

he's a prick.

If you run into him in person, stop him and ask for his autograph. Then you'll see why people don't like him.

In the real world Lumpy has BQ posters taped up in his closet and is putting on so he wont be found out. Its funny but in a disgusting way. Lumpies socks stand on their own they are so stiff!

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@lumbergh said:

he's a prick.

If you run into him in person, stop him and ask for his autograph. Then you'll see why people don't like him.

That's funny.

Dirty Hands is a friend of mine.

I personally watched Brady Quinn give him an autograph last year at training camp.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/58128https://brownsboard.com/post/58128Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:41:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Morning Roast on Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:17:27 GMT]]>I doubt mangini went after cutler he is pretty much everything mangini would dislike in a qb if what he says is true at least bq and da have a good temperment and any lockeroom incidents are pretty much da camp vs bq camp...bq is a winner and will demand more than da hence our team of whiney crybabies arent going to like him until his leadership is actually applied..

Smith popped quinn because he beat him at his own little "yo momma said" game...hehehehehe 😉

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@mario said:

brady went to a learning disabilty school before he ever signed a browns contract after the draft. he charged the parents of those children 175 for autographs. xxxx brady

mario you continue to waste all of time and be one of the biggest morons on this board. first of all there is no such thing as a learning disability school. there are however programs for learning disabled students in public schools. secondly brady got a 4.0 a notre dame while majoring in psychology. considering that notre dame is still a top-notch academic school i would say that is very impressive. let me put it into terms you will understand: he dun real good at skool and is smarts, shuck-a-mup. hopefully that explains things for you.

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@mario said:

brady went to a learning disabilty school before he ever signed a browns contract after the draft. he charged the parents of those children 175 for autographs. xxxx brady

link?

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