@wargograw said:

Like these?

@gftchris said:

And it all gets boiled down to this, no?

@mike-h said:

@tour2ma said:

Sounds like war is going for a double decker.

@wargograw said:

You obviously don't know the power of two black hoes.

Seriously... what the "L"???

@wargograw said:

You obviously don't know the power of two black hoes.

Oprah and Beyonce

WSS

@gftchris said:

Two black hoes wouldn't have much of a different effect than a single black hole of the combined masses, at a shared event horizon. Time slowed down to almost nothing.

You obviously don't know the power of two black hoes.

@texasag1969 said:

Two black hoes wouldn't have much of a different effect than a single black hole of the combined masses, at a shared event horizon. Time slowed down to almost nothing.

Sometimes the intelligence I see on this board (beyond the bickering and bombast) is astounding. I'm reading an excellent book at the moment entitled, "The Copernicus Complex-Our cosmic significance in a universe of planets and probabilities."

And excellent read inclusive of most recent finds in astronomy about planetary systems found around other stars thus far. It's like comparative anatomy of the cosmos. BTW on the Science Channel Sunday Feb. 21 @ 8pm CT and on the Discovery Channel Sat. Feb. 20 @ 8pm CT there is a program on the James Webb telescope, the next gen step up from Hubble. Program will discuss the high expectations for his newest space telescope. http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/

http://www.space.com/30877-james-webb-space-telescope-documentary.html

100 X's more powerful than Hubble and capable of detecting "signature of life" on other planets far from our own.

@hoorta said:

Matter doesn't get away but energy does. Energy amounting to three times that of our sun escaped that black hole collision, 1.3bn years ago, and warped spacetime. Incredible. And the detection methods, the ripples it caused were so infinitessimal - if the laser detectors ran, instead of the 2000 miles or so they do run, if they ran from here to the nearest star (proxima centauri), the difference would be a hair's width. So scaled back to 2000 miles, and it's fractions of fractions of atoms. To think we have detectors capable of such things is astonishing.

@texasag1969 said:

Since this is a football board & one of my other hobbies is Astronomy- I'll keep it short.

I always wondered about why they represented a Black Hole as one of those vortex gizmos you occasionally see. Drop a coin in the vortex, the farther down it goes, the faster the coin spins. They warp gravity in the same way. The Black Holes that merged were spinning around one another 70 times a second before they merged. As far as nothing getting away- not exactly, Has to do with a plausible explanation of the Big Bang. Shoot me a PM and I'll explain, has to do with E=MC2.

@tour2ma said:

Confirms everything I know about black holes. The closer you get the more they just suck you in until gravity takes over and there's no getting away.

@unsympathetic said:

It wasn't just any team, though - it was only Cleveland. He only denied one of 32. He said that pre-draft as well, so it's not like he was unclear.

He didn't say he'd hold out if NYJ drafted him, for example -- and they'd probably have done much better with him rather than the forgettable Calvin Pryor at the 18.

It's interesting debating counterfactuals.. because the only fact that was in the war room at the time was that he stated he wasn't going to sign.

Here's the thoughts that get me regarding that list, though, after Teddy is ignored: Was Manziel #2 on this analysis? If he actually was, wouldn't Haslam buy into analytics less at this point, because the list would have been shown to be a crapshoot?

Wouldn't a more plausible theory be... The study showed that Manziel was essentially undraftable [because of shyte ability to actually play quarterback, as we have seen, or because he as a person is not professional] but Haslam overruled the study and ordered the draft of Manziel -- and now is humble, thus willing to leave the football to the football people who were right all along???

@hoorta said:

Speaking of Albert- They just announced yesterday he was right about the existence of gravity waves. Took 100 years to prove it though.

http://www.space.com/31900-gravitational-waves-discovery-ligo.html

I was wondering how they detected the waves, and knew what and how far away the triggering event was... now I know. Sweet...

@hoorta said:

Anyone that watched Sliders knew that. No?

@the-gipper said:

Speaking of Albert- They just announced yesterday he was right about the existence of gravity waves. Took 100 years to prove it though.

http://www.space.com/31900-gravitational-waves-discovery-ligo.html

@texasag1969 said:

Maybe, maybe not. http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/05/13/teddy-bridgewater-cleveland-browns-nfl-draft

I'd say that would be a pretty bold move for a guy who sneaked into the first round by the skin of his ass.

WSS

@the-gipper said:

Maybe, maybe not. http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/05/13/teddy-bridgewater-cleveland-browns-nfl-draft

@the-gipper said:

My point is this: I am all in on the Browns getting that killer defense.....and then getting the good QB possibly by another method.

i'm in!!

@mudfly said:

@unsympathetic said:

He didnt say he'd hold out here either....definitely would've signed. Just said he preferred Minnesota. after he was drafted by Minn.....

@westside-steve said:

Oh I remember his him running his mouth after he went to Minnesota, and his mommy or somebody saying they didn't want him to go to Cleveland.

And if you want to think that analytics has proved that Bilgewater is the best quarterback of his class knock yourself out.

I think it was Devontes Parkers Mommy making all the noise......she was something else......

On the analytics....I dont think they can predict who will ultimately be the best(ceiling)...more about who wont be the worst or who is most likely to succeed at any level(floor)....

And, Id say, of the 4 main guys Bridgewater, Bortles, Carr & JFF.....3 of em had bigger question marks, risk vs reward.......and Bridgewater had the highest floor, but not the highest ceiling....making him a safe pick, but one who probably wouldn't become a superstar....

Bortles and Johnny had huge question marks creating more risk....but the reward factor was so much higher if they developed well...so, do you roll the dice on a star or take the safe hum drum pick??.....and, Im thinking, analytics will tell you who the safe pick is....

@oldbrownsfan said:

Wash, rinse repeat...every 2 years fire HC and GM ...we are doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result but at least this time we are looking in a different direction by using analytics.

I like the idea of trying something different too....repeating the same mistake over and over gets tiring...so this seems like an attempt not to do that.....

VesnaKociper said:

Fair enough. All excellent points.

@unsympathetic said:

This is as dumb of a post as I have seen lately: If the Browns drafted Bridgewater he would have signed and played here. Simple as that. What was he going to do, sit out a year, not play....and be completely forgotten and fallen down to maybe be a mid round choice? His agent would not have put up with that.