@gftchris said:

Already on list due to Sr. Bowl week showings.

@gumby73 said:

Request Joshua Garnett (Stan). Is it fat or is it muscle?

Maybe first alt... but can always take a shot at him yourself...

Another collegiate OT projected to make the move inside at the next level. It is where he played last year when La'el Collins was his teammate. I was very curious about Vadal as I'd seen the value of this player, whom I did not know, rise significantly in the Play the Draft game. At 336 lbs., Vadal really looks the part for the move back inside.

Shortly into tape 1 of Vadal at RT vs. Miss St. it was apparent that he had no future at OT. He's just not athletic enough. His PassPro tech was OK until pressure arrives, but then it flies away. Mid-game he came alive some, but by Q4 he looked gassed. And he started watching the ball for the snap... in a home game... and he's nowhere quick enough to get away with that.

In the second tape vs. BAMA Vadal was simply overmatched. He spent a good deal of the game across from Reed. So long as Reed had two-gap responsibility Vadal could stmie him into a draw, but whenever Reed had one-gap, he won. Against smaller BAMA DEs and LBs Vadal had real issues. At times he'd look around as if to ask, "Where'd my assignment go?" He was late to speed rushers and the agile rusher could outflank him by taking left and right angles alternately.

Tape 3 saw Texas Tech in a bowl game. Easily Vadal's best showing physically despite facing smaller, quicker D-players. But Tech's D-players were not impressive. So long as the play was over him, Vadal faired reasonably well, but when the play was away... I actually got to the point where I questioned Vadal's football IQ. He never seemed to get in position to impact a play going away from him. Sometimes it was lack of speed; sometimes it was lack of hustle, but often he just looked lost.

For grins I looked at his 2015 game vs. Auburn at LG next to La'el Collins. World of difference was evident from the first snap. Vadal was coming off the ball and smacking 2nd level LBs. Later he started watching for the snap, but at least this was a road game. But in the end I did not see enough to justify his Play the Draft rise or for us to consider him.

@wargograw said:

When did K State and Arkansas play?

AR 45 KSU 23 Saturday Jan. 2 Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium, Memphis, TN

@tour2ma said:

When did K State and Arkansas play?

Hard to trust these big 12 OLs. There is a dearth of front 7 talent there.

A. Cody Whitehair (KSU @ LT) - 6'4 300 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=120254&draftyear=2016&genpos=OG

Hard to project a guy inside, but that's where DraftScout says he's destined to play, so I'll give it a shot based upon his play at LT. I'll start by saying he's probably the #4 LT on my board at present.

Kid makes PassPro look easy with a wide, choppy stance and active hands. Very economical, but not dripping with technique. I saw him struggle to anchor once against a 280-lb, Arkansas DE... just the once. And that's a LT with no kick step and no over-the-top technique. I did not see him against a speed rush except for a delayed DB blitz that he ate up.

In run blocking he's patient. He almost stalks his assignment... setting them up for a blow when he decides "it's time." And once he contacts his assignment he stays in contact... really drives and finishes, but is not "nasty". He could have really blown up a DB who closed in to meet a pull... he settled for simply knocking the DB on his ass.

Did I mention he was the only OL I saw pull for KSU? Looked pretty good too although his initial step wastes motion... an easy clean up. Coming off the line I saw a real blast in one goal-line situation. There's a lot to like here.

Inside? At OG? Need to see him against bigger, stronger DL. I still have the SR. Bowl saved so hopefully I can get an idea from that.

The Browns aren't going to draft an OG in the first two or three rounds...

Kirkland isn't just big OG, he is a player.