@vaportrail said:

There's been Ted Cruz's before. They like the talking point and voter block - they'll never do anything about abortion.

Kasich is the only one who has actually done something about it in the race - clinics and women just have to jump through a bunch more hoops now basically. There's some speculation many just hop the border and go to Michigan.

@westside-steve said:

Ted Cruz

@logicisforsquares said:

There are many Christians who don't support Trump and I spoke to a few of them who will either write in a candidate or not vote at all then to vote for Trump. You don't have to know that much about Christianity to realize Trump doesn't know the first thing about the bible. When he says as a Christian he never saw the need to ask for forgiveness he may be the first Christian on record ever making that claim. I can think of Trump's prior support of partial birth abortions as a good place to start in asking for forgiveness.

Popular Christian Media Outlet Breaks Tradition With Brutal, First-Ever Presidential Stance: ‘Donald Trump Is a Scam’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/29/popular-christian-media-outlet-breaks-tradition-with-brutal-first-ever-presidential-stance-donald-trump-is-a-scam/

@westside-steve said:

Didn't Barack Obama win a good portion of the evangelistic vote? Didn't he join a Fundamentalist Church in Chicago to help him win votes? Then how well did he serve the wishes of the Christian community? How well has any President served the wishes of the Christian community?

It stands to reason that whether you pray 10 times a day or are a devout atheist sooner or later you realize the president can't implement a theocracy so it's best to vote for someone who will manage the country. Jimmy Carter was a Christian.

But the term tea party sets off a Pavlovian bell for some people.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

I can support Trump's current position on Planned Parenthood which is to continue funding Planned Parenthood only if they quit doing abortions and focus on other women's health issues:

About the abortion business, Trump said he opposes taxpayer funding but added, “It does do wonderful things but not as it relates to abortion.”

Trump then added that “there are wonderful things having to do with women’s health” when it comes to Planned Parenthood, “but not when it comes to abortion.”

While he had said he supports de-funding the abortion company if it refuses to stop doing abortions, Trump’s repeated comments that Planned Parenthood does some “wonderful things” will raise eyebrows with pro-life voters.

http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/14/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-does-wonderful-things-but-not-when-it-comes-to-abortion/

@oldbrownsfan said:

That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

They also perform abortions. Now if any of you guys think that any presidential candidate is going to stop abortion tell me who it is.

I have no problem transferring their support money to organizations that overlap their women's health services.

WSS

@vaportrail said:

That is my biggest problem with Trump. He worries me because I don't know what he actually believes. You can agree or disagree with Cruz but you know what you are getting with him and that goes with most other candidates.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I can tell you don't care for the Tea party but what part of the Tea party beliefs doesn't Trump represent? One of the problems for Cruz is that Trump has managed to win more Tea partiers like Sarah Palin than Cruz (as well as evangelical Christian voters). These voters would have probably went to Cruz if Trump was not in the race.

The difference between Trump and Cruz is that only one of them actually believes the crazy shit they're spouting off. Trump is pandering. Plus, he's actually able to acknowledge that planned parenthood does good things for women.

Even if people don't like Trump, they should turn into single issue voters in regards to the TPP - that everybody supports except for Trump (and Sanders but nobody is showing up to vote for Sanders). I think Trump is the only one with a legitimate chance at stopping it. Probably the biggest issue this election.

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I hope it's Trump versus Hillary and not *with* Hillary. There has been some speculation that Trump's good pal Bill Clinton actually talked Trump into running on the republican ticket for president.

Report: Bill Clinton called Trump ahead of campaign launch

"Trump spoke with Clinton from his office in New York, and the former president encouraged the celebrity real estate developer to play a larger role in the GOP, four Trump allies told the Post.

Don't fight it - it's Trump V Hillary

Will the real Donald Trump please stand up?

Cruz stands in the senate and yells the 10% of the time he actually shows up - wasting everybody's time, then he leaves and says he fought the good fight.

@bbedward said:

Not wrong -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/22/5-times-ted-cruz-went-to-war-with-the-republican-establishment/

"The vast majority of Republican elites remain bitterly opposed to the prospect of Mr. Cruz’s becoming the party’s presidential nominee, some even preferring to take their chances with Donald J. Trump."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-starts-to-crack-gop-establishments-wall-of-opposition.html?_r=0

@oldbrownsfan said:

Wrong - I just explained that he was. He's just exploiting a different crowd than the other establishment guys.

McConnell wants Hillary over Trump, though.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/cruz-mcconnell-democrat-215372

If there is a poster child for the establishment republicans it is Mitchell McConnell and Cruz has been a thorn in his side. Cruz is not part of the establishment and never has been.

@oldbrownsfan said:

@pumpkin-eater said:

So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

Jeff Sessions is "the guy" that conservatives including Cruz worship and look up to.

Nobody likes Cruz because he's a loud mouth who shuts down the government over planned parenthood costing the country billions, then he doesn't show up to work otherwise or do anything else.

Cruz isn't a political outsider anyway, people just don't like him. His wife was on the national security committee with Condoleeza under GW Bush (disaster), Cruz was the brains behind a lot of GW Bush's domestic policy on legal matters, now his wife has a cushy position with Goldman Sachs.

Cruz is the establishment - his colleagues just don't like him because he's a loud mouth with a punchable face..

@pumpkin-eater said:

Unless you count himself as a rich or special interest group.

@pumpkin-eater said:

After being lied to by the establishment GOP for decades with their empty talk about securing the border I think Trump if elected president will get the border secured. The problem has always been that both parties have wanted an open border for different reasons. The democrats wanted a new voting block and the chamber of commerce republicans wanted the cheap labor.

@pumpkin-eater said:

+1

@bbedward said:

This is literally the last nail in the Cruz coffin.

Sessions is the most "ideologically comparable" person to Cruz in the Senate.

And he still endorsed Trump...just goes to show you how much Cruz's colleagues literally hate him.

So lifelong political sponges hate him? That's probably a good thing.

@logicisforsquares said: