@the-cysko-kid said:

Those links have some conflicting information, are far as that percentage goes.

It isn't my job to confirm the numbers you post. If you want to use statistics to back up your argument, you should provide a source. Otherwise, those numbers won't carry much merit.

@jrb12711 said:

For what it's worth, the biggest drug bust in Ohio last year was a million dollar bust of heroin from Mexico.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/heroin-bust-slows-flow-from-mexican-pipeline/npQdg/

You don't get to backtrack on statements and somehow it becomes okay.

By that logic, you must think it's bullshit that Obama and Hillary are allowed support gay marriage when they haven't in the past.

@clevfan4life said:

He's been consistent on some of the core things like that - and he has some prominent general advising him on foreign policy matters that shares those views (Michael Flynn, who called the Isis rise a "willful US decision")

@bbedward said:

yeah but you know what, the guy alters his message so much I don't know if he's just talking shit to try to pull in people in the middle or not. That's the problem with a huckster, he can't be trusted. Now these career politicians have made a living saying one thing and doing another, I get that...don't trust what they say either. Which is why I ain't voting for any of em.....i'm just not going to trust Trump to do word one of what he says except building that ridiculous wall that "of course' we're going to pay for.

@clevfan4life said:

You're getting ahead of yourself, but Trump isn't all buddy/buddy with Putin. He's about not funding the terrorists/rebels and only fight Isis with Russia's help - he basically doesn't care about Assad.

The other candidates want no fly zones in Syria, they want to do cold-war style stuff with the sixth fleet, and they don't want to talk to Putin "at all"

The approach of not fighting Assad, not starting WW3 with Russia, and being open to more "talks" is much better IMO - the alternative is a continuation of the foreign policy of the last 20 years.

@bbedward said:

Putin doesn't want stronger relations with us. He wants to bury us. He can't stand the U.S. He wants the U.S to decline and Russia to take it's place as the worlds next great power. Vladimir Putin has "zero" interest in power sharing. He might cede to it "for a time". But any kind of relations he would set up with a Trump administration would be pure manipulation and bullshit. And people in DC know this. But what concerns me about Trump is that he could "easily" get it in his head that he can run a guy like Putin...who is on another food chain compared to Trump.

@clevfan4life said:

Trump has foreign policy advisors who favor stronger relations with Russia, therefore Russia likes him more than the candidates who want to knock out Assad and put a no fly zone over Syria are not as popular among the Russians.

That's the biggest thing

@bbedward said:

ehhhhh I think it's a little more than that. See he knows Trump is an American business operator with the usual American ego. Putin is much more than just the usual Soviet strongman. Much much much more. There's a long game that he's playing and at Trump presidency would absolutely further along those plans.

Think about what Putin wants. What does he want from the world? In order for that to happen who does he need the world to see in a lesser light?

@mld-woody said:

I'm not the one making up statistics...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/90-of-people-killed-by-us-drone-strikes-in-afghani/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_US_drone_strikes

http://www.hngn.com/articles/141152/20151016/obama-drone-program-leak-nearly-90-of-people-killed-unintended-targets-reveals-whistleblower.htm

I said you could look it up yourself but youre, as usual, determined to be a bitch for some unknown reason. I mentioned that there's no real hard data but you want to accuse me of making up statistics which I'm clearly not making up, unless I'm taking time out of my burgeoning career as a journalist to argue with a cunt on a cleveland browns football forum.

@bbedward said:

All I can is go ahead and read that link I put before, it's just a misnomer about much of what you're saying and that shows statistics on why.

They send an insane amount of drugs across the border - you can ask El Chapo himself. Many consumers in America, lots of money.

The Mexican Street gangs are pretty damn widespread - and many are soulless evil people.

I don't really agree with deporting everybody, but securing the border is an absolute necessity. Not to mention we can't vet anybody's background, they could bring diseases among other things.

Democrats supported what he's saying now not that long ago. Clinton voted for the fence

@bbedward said:

You failed to read the whole quote, so no that's not right. The full quote is:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

So first off, he did specifically say it was Meixcan people.

Second, of course they bring some with them but it's a completely false narrative they do that at a higher rate than American people. Here's a good read on it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/

@jrb12711 said:

No."They're sending crime, their drugs, their rapists"

First of all he's referring to people coming across the border illegally - not mexican people or hispanic people.

Second of all - do you think that the southern border isn't a source of crime <including rape>, and drugs?

@clevfan4life said:

There's a very good and entirely self serving reason Putin would love him some Donald.

Because he doesn't support the rebels in Syria and doesn't care if Assad stays in power - nor does he want to interfere with Russia's efforts in Syria.

@mld-woody said:

In an attempt to make a point , you seem to always exaggerate claims made or just make them up.

Let me know where I said what you're claiming. I'll wait

Where am I wrong?

WSS

@vaportrail said:

There's a very good and entirely self serving reason Putin would love him some Donald.

@bbedward said:

sigh...I'm going to say this just one more time. I know the media makes things worse, or even out of context. I understand that a lot of what Trump is suggesting he'd do is shameful pandering and won't happen in American society. But, the fact of the matter is he's said this stuff, out loud and in person. You don't get to backtrack on statements and somehow it becomes okay.

-Donald Trump confirmed he'd want a database for Muslims before changing his stance. I've quoted that several times here, I won't again.

-Donal Trump said that protesters should be roughed up: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/22/politics/donald-trump-black-lives-matter-protester-confrontation/ and shortly after had to say "they don't condone that behavior". The dude might have been being portraying civil disobedience but the response was worse.

-Donald Trump can be directly quoted as calling illegal mexican people rapists and murderers (oh but some are good people). He belittled Jeb Bush for having a Mexican wife. He refused to condemn a group of folks who intentionally attacked a hispanic man citing his policies, and instead called his supporters "passionate".He told an award winning Hispanic journalist to get out his country when he was asking a question.

He's said and done these things, and while they may be exaggerated he's said them. This man is running for President of the country, and has said these things. It can't be denied, it happened in black and white. I can't in any shape or form understand how someone can support a man who does this.

@westside-steve said:

Woody you are absolutely correct. Good kind and benevolent Obama would never hurt innocent people and if he did their families would probably understand because hes got a Nobel Peace Prize.

WSS

In an attempt to make a point , you seem to always exaggerate claims made or just make them up.

Let me know where I said what you're claiming. I'll wait

@jrb12711 said:

Well, for me, I can accept it because it's the Republican Party reaping the hatred that they've sown for the past 4 years. And here's a fun fact for you - it's not just stupid people that are supporting him. Trump won college educated voters in Massachusetts. He received more votes in the Massachusetts primary than Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, received in 2012. So stop treating him as the candidate for only idiots. Yes, the redneck racists are flocking to Trump, but they've been flocking to the GOP candidate for how long, now? Those fringe people have never been the difference in a recent presidential election, and they're not going to be the difference in this one. Donald Trump will win this election by getting the Reagan Democrats.

@jrb12711 said:

Oh yes, I'm so happy that Putin the beacon of political goodness and light is looking forward to working with Trump. That totally changes my mind on the matter.

@oldbrownsfan said:

Romney is dumb because he doesn't realize shilling against Trump makes Trump even stronger.

@vaportrail said:

"Think about how stupid your average human being is. Now realize that half the world is dumber than them.

-George Carlin

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/03/open-warfare-romney-calls-trump-phony-fraud-trump-calls-romney-failed-candidate.html

The republican establishment is going all out to destroy Trump. The establishment has been so used to getting their way and their own hand picked candidates to run they can't accept the voters choice. Pathetic really. The elites thought they would load up Jeb Bush with 100 million and buy his candidacy and that failed. Now they have turned to Rubio who is acting desperate. Kasich is too far back and they don't like Cruz any better than Trump. What these elites need to do is just get behind the winner. That was what was promised to the eventual winner when the republicans had 18 in the field.

@mld-woody said:

I'm not the one making up statistics...

Woody you are absolutely correct. Good kind and benevolent Obama would never hurt innocent people and if he did their families would probably understand because hes got a Nobel Peace Prize.

WSS