Again....see the very first post of the thread.....yea, I used his stage name.

The fantastic Robert Zimmerman's name has yet to be mentioned.

IMHO, he - at least - deserves among those nominated.

He would turn heads, walking down the street - perhaps that is all we are talking about any way.

See the very first post of this thread. I had him in the 5-10 range.

WSS

No one mentioned Elton John who probably trumps most others

Rock only - does she count? Maybe.

As for being in contention, I would argue ozzy (and his bat head biting and, well, iconic look) would have to be up there, rather than someone who was an excellent musician, but never really gained individual fame (such as people like jimmy paige and brian may).

You think these three guys would agree that dave grohl is a nobody?

I don't like what you say, waaah. I don't know who dave Grohl is waaah.

You mistake me. Its not that I don't like what you say....I just don't care what you say. And again, how can someone who I have never heard of be considered an icon.

For a lawyer you are both a condescending douche, which is probably to be expected from someone in your profession,

So...I see you have been on the losing end of lawsuits....pretty much can tell by the attitude. I eat schlub's like you for breakfast...so naturally you are resentful...because you have probably been served up a few times.

and also a baby, which us surprising. Both Grohl and Mettallica have earned their statuses.

Within their niche that you are enthralled, I don't debate.

Both are every bit as or more successful as santana and billy Joel and the likes of them.

Except, of course, they are not anywhere near household names. Again....do the Public Square test...and see how many people know Grohl and Hetfield....and again....."Metallica" does NOT count. Metallica is clearly, as noted, a well known name. But the guy from the band is not.

You are stunted. It's like time stopped for you around 1978. Like it or not, these guys are now the elder statesmen of rock and they influence the younger generations of rock fans as much as they themselves were influenced by the likes of Led Zeppelin and the Beatles.

I think you have lost complete insight as to what this thread is. The title is "Who are the 5 greatest living Rock Icons". So: A. A band does not qualify. It must be a person. and B. It does not ask who YOU like best or are more influenced by. (and I dont debate that many headbangers have been influenced by Metallica)

As for your question about time stopping post 1978...it is the closest you have come to making an accurate statement. But ever there again, not really.....but a little. It would be more like 1985. BUT...I still know who would be iconic post that era....as that is the point of someone being an icon...EVERYONE knows who they are.

In fact....maybe I will start a new thread....you give me an idea.

Our friend across the pond there has never even heard of santana. That, to me, justifies my position on his iconic status.

I don't think that Santana is one of the Top Ten icons.

But I will still wager that if you do the Public Square test, many more will still know him than know whatshisname...Jim Hatefilled.

Sure they should Chris. We're just talking about top 5, I think.

I figure if you ask everybody from 85 years old down to 15 the most recognized artists would be the ones you're looking for. If you just take 15 to 25 Katy Perry would be an icon.

One name we haven't mentioned is Madonna who I assume is known across the board.

WSS

Never heard of Santana?

Have you heard of Chuck Berry?

@chicopee-john said:

>>Any objective listing on this subject pretty much has to have Paul McCartney at the top of it.>>

Maybe I took you literal, Gip, and thought you said that - by any objective measure - McCartney has to be #1.

Maybe I'm out lawyering the lawyer

Not sure....if you would outlawyer me.

Let's put it this way: I would take his case for the #1 living Rock Idol over anyone else really.

Yes, I would say that McCartney is one of the most iconic Rock figures in the world. You can probably take 'Rock' out of the previous sentence.

Sure...anyone in any field. Who is more iconic...in any field? Good question.