@secondwave said:

I just keep thinking of Tom Cruise in Born on the Fourth of July in the wheelchair yelling, "love it or leave it"

You can start a war based on phony intelligence, resulting in millions of deaths and casualties, and you can explain your way out of it (ie. Syria, Palestine, Afghanistan). But God forbid you forget to put your flag pin on in the morning.

@au165 said:

he's coached a lot of good QBs. never won the big game when he was part of the team.

@hoorta said:

Goff.no chance. Hows Kap & Wentz looking? RG3 in the lead at the turn..As for Kap. I peeled more Potatoes in the Navy while listening to Jim Croce's "You don't tug on Superman's Cap, you don't spit into the wind" well Kap you also don't sing Happy Birthday at someone's Funeral. It's a Flag & a anthem people gave lives for..No you cannot excuse military service family's from your actions.. Act like It & stand up..

@miktoxic said:

Hue was Joe Flacco's QB coach for a couple years.

@tiamat63 said:

Did Hue coach Marino?

@tiamat63 said:

no tia. not saying any of them are terrible. just chokers.

marino win the big game?

sure we'd gladly take any of those QBs on the browns roster. just tired of the owner hiring project guys who work with project guys. he's got the money hire a PROVEN big game winner. don't count the holmgren thing as lerner knew dick about american football and less about hiring, considering the biggest over-the-hill bum to ever walk into berea.

pretty funny how everyone in the media was exclaiming greatness of RG3 cuz he made a couple of throws this preseason to guys that made even better catches. now we got the likes of colin cowherd telling the QB outta clemson to not sign with the browns if we were to draft him because the org is such a joke.

kinda hard to disagree.

@miktoxic said:

Hue jackson knows about QBs?

Yep. Chokers and bums. Pick 6 dicks.

Anyone of them ever win the big game? Hell did anyone on his staff ever win the big game?

Sound logic. I hear Marino was terrible.

Yep. Chokers and bums. Pick 6 dicks.

Anyone of them ever win the big game? Hell did anyone on his staff ever win the big game?

Zombo said:

Indeed he does Z. I just hope he's right. To date, I'm not exactly enamored of RG III.

@hoorta said:

Hue Jackson knows a thing or two about quarterbacks.

Zombo

@baconhound said:

Kaepernick sits in protest "fuck him", Crowell tweets a meme of a cop being killed "run Crow run". Fucking football fans

This. ^

WSS

It's funny how someone who has been hand fed and taken care of since the day someone (prob white) saw he could run jump throw bigger and better than other people cN stand up like he has some gripe against 'the man' 'the country' 'the po po'. MLK would slap his dad (who is? Where is?) for making some claim in a fight that has been going on since the beginning of time. Then mix in the back handed slap to those who gave their lives for him to be anle to stand up and blab about how bad he and his people have it.

Dude. Stand up for what u believe in but when it all comes down to it ur still american correct? Whata u gonna do if the gavel came down tomorrow to stand up with your fellow countrymen and defend this land, ur family and your home? Run? Hide? Move away?

Someday there'll no place to run to. Then either u'll stand, fall or be a turncoat bitch. I'm finding kaep to be the latter.

@tiamat63 said:

True enough.

Zombo said:

As I recall, the Kaepernick crap was all just Mary Kayish conjecture.

Hue worked out RG3 and told the suits to get a deal worked out before he left town.

You are trying hard not to like Hue. Maybe we should bring Johnny back, you seemed to love him.

Zombo

FWIW, I didn't want either- and especially not Johnny Football. Z- damn near anybody can look great tossing the rock in a T-shirt and shorts.

@baconhound said:

Kaepernick sits in protest "fuck him", Crowell tweets a meme of a cop being killed "run Crow run". Fucking football fans

Gotta turn the page, bro, can't keep hating on a guy who sincerely apologizes and makes amends.

Z

He admits as much. We'll see.

Colin Scarlet Pimpernel will probably never become a genuine mature human being.

why he even merits a thread ...I don't know.

@tiamat63 said:

Robert was very entitled and immature when unpredictable adversity came his way the first time. Let me ask you this, would Mike or Kyle Shanahan praise the Jay Gruden version of RG3 (via Daniel Snyder forced down we read about) or their version of RG3? Mike Shanahan went straight to Snyder's office and told him he was unnecessarily bringing RG3's career to a premature conclusion with that bs meeting that was supposed to look like it came from RG3. Seems kind of strange Shanahan would go to such an extreme if he felt RG3 was an absolute jerk.

If Cam Newton, Air McNair, Donovan McNabb, Russell Wilson and other successful out of pocket passers were told they can't ever scramble out of pocket again - do you realize how much that changes everything for some of these guys? Even Steve Young had a high inventory of concussions when TB wanted him to be just a pocket passer and his critics kept saying how quickly their version of bust needed to scramble in lieu of pass.Then he goes to SF where the QBs throw a lot of passes outside of pocket. You know the rest of that story.

IMO the biggest hurdle here is RG3's durability - not his character on the 2nd chance he seems to appreciate at this time.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Bullshit. The article I read smells of multiple that were wrote when Robert's play in Washington declined and Cousins took over.

The attitude, the 'diva', etc etc.

The only thing Robert had over Kaep is that he seems like a more likeable guy. Especially after this latest incident.