a star for somebody...maybe.

I think the idea to draft Bosa as a 3-4 lb over Miles Jack, or Jalen Ramsey, or

even Buckner, or Elliot, and some others... that's just silly.

I proposed this elsewhere: Taking Bosa at #2...then trading up from 32 to take Lynch.

Re this proposal: Does anyone think that Lynch will drop to #32? What would have to be given up to move into the mid 1st round to get him?

(Assuming the PBBJ guys think enough of him to do so)

@wargograw said:

PFF is obsessed with this kid.

Actually I was wrong on this. It's Matt Johnson from Bowling Green that they love.

@hoorta said:

VesnaKociper said:

That is one possible plan. I think it may be something the analytics guys may endorse.

@tour2ma said:

I think I figured out my issue with multiple QB picks in the draft... only one plays at a time. Unique among the starting 22 if you make a slight allowances for RBs.

Please close the window. I feel a draught.

Fair enough. Next round is on me.

WSS

@tour2ma said:

Or at least open the tap.

@westside-steve said:

I have my doughts...

Please close the window. I feel a draught.

@flugel said:

Michael Bennett was an undrafted free agent as well.

VesnaKociper said:

To trade down, you need someone willing to trade up. Lynch is slotted to go mid late first round. You probably remember how much Atlanta had to give the Browns to move up to take Julio Jones. & why the sudden change of heart? You always wanted us to take the stud when we were drafting high.

@miktoxic said:

lynch is a bum.

if they selected him for whatever reason their analytics would say that analytics means jack shit.

Maybe not a bum but a over rated Captain Checkdown, if you want to believe the analytic charts. He's a big step down from Goff or Wentz.

WSS

VesnaKociper said:

Trade down, take Lynch use the extra pick for O

Lunch sucks Tommy.. just draft Goff and roll...Wow.. I said "lunch" instead lynch.. hmm it will fit well in the NFL. LOL!

@jrb12711 said:

Appreciate your honesty my man. One thing you should always do is trust your eye balls.

When I watched the combine, I had to rewind twice all day and both times it was him. Then I remembered this is the guy they kept calling a potential steal for somebody mid-late in the draft on sports radio here in Nashville. I can't remember if it was Frank Wycheck or Blaine Bishop (both former Titans) but he had a big fan here thinking he could make an NFL roster. So, I checked out the numbers and saw 96 TD passes in the last 2 years. He punctuated his career with a 12-2 record in 2015 with over 5,000 yards passing and a 71.9 comp % in an offense that scored 40 points a game with receivers he's developed chemistry with. I saw him beat Vandy easier than (SEC Runner-up) Florida could. I summed it all up as the right NFL coach with the right system should be able to develop him.

All that said J, when it comes to QBs I'm kind of like Bart Simpson giving advice on behavioral etiquette. 1 time when all of America told us our only choice was Tim Couch - the QB who went to the team with the worst record in 1998 was Donovan McNabb at #2 overall in 1999. Their fan base booed the pick for a Ricky Williams who would eventually take a marijuana sabbatical from football while all McNabb did was lead Philly to the playoffs from about 2000 through 2010/2011.That included 5 NFC Championship Appearances and 1 SB. I was born and raised in Upstate NY always interested in SU Football and I didn't have the first freakin clue what this guy was ready to do.Was popular opinion right about Ricky Williams being the answer to all of Philly's problems? All I knew allegedly was Tim Couch was the only thing that made sense. The more I read that everywhere - the more I believed it. I don't think he was bad considering we made the playoffs in 2002; but he wasn't the same game changer McNabb turned out to be. McNabb was doing everything Peyton Manning was doing without the Dallas Clarks, Reggie Waynes, Marvin Harrisons, Marshall Faulks/Edge James although Villanova's Brian Westbrook was a big help and TO was there for a cup of coffee. I didn't have the QB intellect to project such a thing from the 1 college program I saw more than all others. When I read the Veer Option offense was too unconventional for consideration - I bought it hook line and sinker. Andy Reid? He already Coached up a QB in GB from that style of offense at So Miss that rushed for well about 3500 yards in his high school career (Brett Favre) so he felt he had the perfect system match for McNabb. The numbers, post seasons, Pro Bowls and Conference MVPs tell us Reid got the best game changer in the 99 draft.

@joedawg69 said:

Understandable, we have 11 picks. Also consider this. If you were an undrafted FA eyeing up your best chance to not only make an NFL roster but to get significant playing time right away - would there be a better choice for you than Cleveland in 2016? How could there be?

Look what Seattle did in the mid-late rounds as well as 2 of their starting WRs being undrafted (Kearse & Baldwin).

@flugel said:

Yeah true-honestly in just my opinion he didn't pass the eye test at all. He looked like a man playing with boys in really the 2nd/3rd tier of draft prospects. I know my smell test means jack shit but just how I felt about how he looked.

@flugel said:

Got ya... cast a wider net into the depths of Days 2 and 3...

If the evaluations are there to place the QB "projectspects" in the midst of other position players, then maybe, but there are more and more position players I like on Days 2 and 3.

if they selected him for whatever reason their analytics would say that analytics means jack shit.

@dawg2fan said:

Starting any rookie QB in Cleveland with the massive rebuild underway is a gamble at best IMO. I feel like we would be setting him up for failure at the extent of exhausting the guy's confidence way before it's necessary. We have the worst WR Corps of my lifetime when 3 TDs led them in TD receptions in 2014 and 5 TD receptions led them in 2015. Sometimes the inexperienced QBs sentenced to the mess here on the perimeter have become public enemy #1 by the end of September. There is no Marvin Harrison and Marshall Faulk awaiting our new QB, which soon thereafter added guys like Edge James, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark (also All American performers in college like Harrison and Faulk were if memory serves me right). We have a bunch of guys that couldn't start anywhere else that would struggle to make other football teams. For example, Pryor was unemployed. This means a lot of extra attention aimed at Barnidge and a progression read loaded with uh-oh. I thought Phil Simms said it best when he looked at Hawkins and Gabriel in the formation saying look at what Cleveland is surrendering at the WR position right now with it's size disadvantage against this physical secondary secondary. Sound like an educated NFL passer who knows the difference between acceptable and unacceptable?

Now, if talent around QB in many important areas changes significantly during the draft - my take about how early we should start a rookie QB is subject to change.

We can keep Connor Shaw if we need another stunt man with starts under his belt.

@jrb12711 said:

Okay, at least I know where you are coming from and I appreciate your specifics why. The only thing I'll caution you and others on is how much to make out of an All Star Game even though you acknowledged 1 game doesn't make a player. For example, Charlie Frye was the MVP of the Senior Bowl.

@tour2ma said:

I probably did a bad job of articulating this but the take 2 idea was only meant if we pass on the QB at #2 especially now that we are being awarded 3 comp picks to our originally scheduled draft volume of 8. Just a thought.