Beck wants to be news. He wants you to get info from him

Stewart wants to be comedy. He wants you to laugh and enjoy his program. His program happens to be around politics and current events, so he needs to provide some facts to set the joke.

That's not to say some don't use him as a news source. Those people might better off than if they just watched Beck though...

@stinkhole said:

But yet no one is making this point in the thread, right Vapor? Right?

Simply put, one more time, just because people take his opinions at face-value doesn't mean he isn't merely a comedian with a political humor angle. People taking famous people's opinion literally happens all the time. It's not worth my time saying that again.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Oliver is on HBO. not exactly comedy central. HBO is home of vice news a well known comedy show

I thought you were on Stewart and Colbert at that point.

But yes, HBO does do some news stuff sometimes. So they're basically a channel that has News in their name...

@mld-woody said:

Right, and they're on Comedy Central

oh, wait, no they're on Fox... Fox... News. Ya. Fox News

Oliver is on HBO. not exactly comedy central. HBO is home of vice news a well known comedy show

@jrb12711 said:

Right, but that's what I'm saying before with that just being a fact of the world. People take the opinions of others in power (whether it be a celeb, politician or whomever) at face value all the time. It isn't some unique phenomenon to John Oliver and doesn't change the fact that he's a comedian.

Stuart

What the hell are you arguing then? Yes Oliver is a comedian. He ridicules politics of the day which makes people laugh. Leftists take his comedy seriously in such a way that it helps them justify their hatred of Republicans or Conservatives.

If that didn't help, from WIKI...John William Oliver (born 23 April 1977)[2] is an English comedian, political commentator, television host, and occasional actor. He is widely known in the United States for hosting HBO's Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and for his work on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

@bbedward said:

I look forward to Stewart's upcoming show on HBO

@the-cysko-kid said:

Right, and they're on Comedy Central

oh, wait, no they're on Fox... Fox... News. Ya. Fox News

@westside-steve said:

i've laughed at videos of Glenn Beck. So you might have something there

@the-cysko-kid said:

Is that fair to say?

Do I post anything else when I post his videos? Have I outright said I agree?

Or could I just be posting them to start a conversation and because I think the videos are interesting. Maybe I find topics like this more interesting than Cal's 14th "Obamao is a dirty liberal/etc!" thread of the week?

But you know what happens when you assume. You continue to look like an ass.

@bbedward said:

Too be fair Oliver touches on politics from all over the world. Just mostly the US

@jrb12711 said:

And he continues to argue against a point that no one is making.

@vaportrail said:

Just because you can use the phrase "objective realities," it does not follow that you are describing an objective reality. You are trying to pigeonhole people into a single category when in "objective reality," they actually fit into many.

And there you go again, attacking a point that no one is making.

Do you understand the word objective? Everything I have said is tangible proof he is a comedian because ya know thats what people call him. I simply cannot make that clearer without highly questioning reading ability.

Literally WSS three comments up talked about influence that people get from famous people, and so did cysko. Are you serious with that?

@jrb12711 said:

Just because you can use the phrase "objective realities," it does not follow that you are describing an objective reality. You are trying to pigeonhole people into a single category when in "objective reality," they actually fit into many.

And there you go again, attacking a point that no one is making.

@the-cysko-kid said:

First off, I can't believe he's 62 years old. I also still can't believe he got a gig for MNF.

I see where you're going, but the thing is Miller has committed to hosting programs on news networks for years. Comedy Central and HBO aren't news networks. If John Oliver began doing syndicated work on CNN and CNBC I would no doubt change my mind.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Right, but that's what I'm saying before with that just being a fact of the world. People take the opinions of others in power (whether it be a celeb, politician or whomever) at face value all the time. It isn't some unique phenomenon to John Oliver and doesn't change the fact that he's a comedian.

@jrb12711 said:

I literally saw John Oliver preform a stand-up routine last year. No, I'm not going to admit a touring comedian who calls himself a comedian and hosts a comedy show is a news personality just because he talks about current events.

Not to mention there is certainly a contingent that gets almost all of their news opinions from those shows.

WSS

@vaportrail said:

You can say the same shit 1000 times and it doesn't change the facts. He's called a comedian, and hosts a comedy show. Your opinion is outweighed by official, objective realities of what people call him and consider him. Political humor is a type of comedy, does that register for you at all? Or are you going to try to fail again to not comment on the objective by attempting a bad stab at questioning intelligence?

Unless of course his own marketing brand, HBO, biography and materials are ALL misinformed and ALL don't see this amazing breakthrough you've had. Unless his own quote from his mouth, "It’s not journalism, it’s comedy—it’s comedy first, and it’s comedy second" is some bold-faced lie to cover up his REAL plan, you're wrong. But I can't wait for you to show me an obtuse triangle with some droll attempt to say I'm wrong again.

*In my opinion.

@jrb12711 said:

I have never argued that he wasn't a comedian.

Here's an image that should help you. This is called a Venn diagram. The left circle represents comedians. The right circle represents news personalities. Where they overlap is where you'll find the likes of Oliver, Stewart, Colbert.