@jiggins7919 said:

Can he stop the run? I'd like evidence of this. I see a guy who flys up to the ball carrier, but arrives uncontrolled, high and rarely secures a 1 on 1 tackle. As for covering. I agree, but it depends on the coverage. His footwork in man leaves a lot to be desired and as I've said, in the tape I saw had plenty of safety help rolled his way.

Physically he's gifted and seems like a solid character off the field. But you can't take my analysis, then come back with saying these things without quantifying them and just using generalizations. Especially if you're an FSU fan.

@jiggins7919 said:

I knew there was something not quite right about you...

@jiggins7919 said:

Can we assume that Ramsey will not be there for the Browns at 8?

And you know what? He wasn't even the best player on the FSU defense. The guy to watch is a guy named Derwin James. Yeah...he was a FRESHMAN.

@tour2ma said:

Hate to say I didn't take a snap count. But..... I didn't take a snap count.

For what I saw in the three 2014 tapes, he played back on the hash about 65% of the time. If we want to apply that 65% over the course of 12-14 games, so be it. I'm sure that number might have some flux in either direction. If he wasn't there, he was up in the box playing a nickel, or blitzing from that spot. Oddly enough he was used a TON at the line in the Rose Bowl or split out between the numbers against bunch packages. Kid has the willingness to take on screens and blockers, he just needs better technique and tackling to fight them off. It wasn't until this past seasons tape when I noticed he rarely moved from playing outside.

@miktoxic said:

I don't recall a single individual saying that about Barky.

Then again, I wasn't a member of this board at the time. I'm going off of conversations I had with friends. However its always a gamble taking an undersized Weakside End and asking him to play from a 2pt stance.

@au165 said:

Ramsey 2015...targeted 66 times and 0 Ints.

Usually I'd say that isn't fair to the CB. Especially if he's being tasked to play man almost exclusively.

As I mentioned earlier though, from what I've seen, Ramsey had a solid amount of safety help or at the worst rolled his way late.

@miktoxic said:

Yup... not just a "system" change... it's a position change. It simply introduces another variable into the transition to the pros mix.

@miktoxic said:

I don't think their failures have anything to do with the system. They just don't play all that well. Now, in Mingo's case, I do think that he has been misused some, not being let go much to rush the passer.

fucking dolts.

@tiamat63 said:

They can ask him to do whatever the fuck they want...and he would/could do it. As far as playing DE is concerned.

@the-gipper said:

Because the system is irrelevent to his talent. That might be important when it comes to a QB....But when it comes to pass rusher it is irrelevent. That is like saying that a WR or RB doesn't fit a system...so we should not take a great one.

I wouldn't go that far. I can think of a fair share of classic rush ends that wouldn't prefer the same if asked to play from a 2pt.

Not that this team would be asking Bosa to do that. No chance.

@miktoxic said:

i get bosa fans and yes he was a great player in college but why draft a guy that doesn't fit in your system?

@miktoxic said:

Because the system is irrelevent to his talent. That might be important when it comes to a QB....But when it comes to pass rusher it is irrelevent. That is like saying that a WR or RB doesn't fit a system...so we should not take a great one.

Watching the Rose Bowl tape right now. I'm going to have to look for more film from this past season to compare, but when Ramsey is back in the deep nest, I get the impression he has little feel for the route concepts unfolding in front of him. More than a few times he just stayed flat footed against a couple very obvious routes. Either he didnt understand where his underneath help was, or he is simply indecisive. So far I wouldn't mark him down to replace Gipson anytime soon.

Dropped a very easy pick on an ill advised throw from Mariota. Kid has stone hands and if I'm drafting a DB top 10, then they need to be able to generate game changing turnovers.

@jrb12711 said:

I'll be moving on to the BC tape soon. But once I"m done with that I'm headed to practice my damn self. I'll give you my thoughts around 8-8:30 EST.

@tiamat63 said:

as I kinda mentioned earlier, I'd remark that watching the game was clearly his worst in my mind in the college career. I'll be curious what you think when you're totally through.

First impression. Footwork is questionable, he runs, flips his hips, turns.. all high. This kid has the balance of a heroin addict though, its impressive. Still a pretty fluid back peddle.

However, he's getting a ton of safety help so far. Playing in a trail tech, he still runs over the receiver and not under or even with him.

first edit: Consistently tackles high. Great awareness in switching off assignments. Made what should have been an easy pick, much too difficult. Hands are.... not good.

@miktoxic said:

Even if Patrick is Peter's son - I wouldn't have drafted him #2 as much as he intrigued me so I never quite got the love and adoration for Ramsey on the NFL Channel. It's like they want to invent someone so presto we have a gotta have anywhere from #1 to #4 overall. Really? You might want to find better highlights for your viewers then.

The guy might end up being a lot better than I'm giving him credit for today; but his tacking is atrocious for a last tier of defense. Now factor in how bad our tackling was in 2015 while our pass rush hurried nobody to take advantage of his press coverage assets. There's gotta be better fits for him and my guess is they aren't in the top 10 where he's been catapulted to.