@miktoxic said:

love this one

@miktoxic said:

Funny as shit.

@darren15 said:

Don't be at all surprised if that Philly deal is made and the Browns pick 8th that they go for Lynch.

@the-gipper said:

If Ghoolie has gatecrashed the front office and landed a job we are taking Lynch

VesnaKociper said:

Sashi Brown and Hue Jackson may think we DO have a QB in RGIII.

@miktoxic said:

Paxton Lynch could still get drafted in the Top Ten. The Browns FO may think that he is Top Ten worthy. Even if they don't....other teams may.

excellent leadership, very, very athletic, who LOVES the game, thrives on

the challenge, throws a very nice ball....

his skills have it over Peyton Manning. Goff's profile sounds like Peyton Manning

a bit.

Wentz and Goff are far superior picks than Marriotta, and what's his name.. oh yeah, Winston.

and the last two went first and second overall.

I'm fine with a nice trade down extra picks biz, but if Wentz is there - you DRAFT him ("cough" or Goff, whoever

he is off the field....)

top qb they could get, with the #1 pick, could fly like Superman,

do cool tricks with Batweapons, swim like Aquaman, and swing

from goalpost to goatpost with a spider web jobbie...

or maybe we didn't have the top pick, and had to settle for a

qb with an iron suit that gives him super "IT" powers....

I'd rather get the right qb, and I think that is Wentz if they don't trade down.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/peyton-manning-defied-some-predictions-b99190928z1-241988471.html

Back in spring 1998, there was uneasiness among NFL personnel people about not only if Manning ever would become more than just a solid starter but also if he were even the No. 1 quarterback in the draft.

It seems crazy now, but paranoia once ran deep in scouting circles when it came to quarterbacks, and for good reason.

In the 10 drafts before Manning of Tennessee was taken with the first overall choice one slot ahead of Washington State's Ryan Leaf, eight of the 14 quarterbacks selected in the first round turned out to be busts.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2050587-looking-back-at-nfl-draft-profiles-from-back-in-the-day/page/2

"Hell, yes, Manning's good, but his ball waffles all the time," the scout said. "I didn't like his ball velocity, either."

@hoodums19 said:

in the coming years? who and when will that be?

you have to understand (guessing you haven't been a browns fan for very long) that haslam isn't a patient guy. sure he might say he is when he spouts his bullshit when hiring a brand new staff after canning the previous one that he said he'd be patient with......that hue and staff better show something other than having a good season because of a soft schedule or they too will be out on their asses that they might want to address the most important position on the team early on in their careers here.

and drafting a QB at 22 or beyond just doesn't cut it.

i.e. paxton lynch is a bum.

VesnaKociper said:

I think it would be fucking stupid to take a Quarterback when the team has no quarterback. Who the fuck needs a Quarterback? Seriously, the Browns have not had a Quarterback and it has not stopped them from having great success at 3 - 13.

Who the fuck needs a QB? Seriously?

I'm not saying we don't need a quarterback, but we shouldn't take one this year. None of these guys have confirmed talent, and if we do take one of them, he won't have the team around him to succeed. We have two at least competent guys under center for now, we need to take the BPA so that when we do take a quarterback in the coming years, he doesn't get absolutely fucking mauled

@unsympathetic said:

True, but circumstantial... the key factor was McQuistan back-filled for Greco... or rather took up space at RG.

I hope we don't trade down even though we need picks. The QB needs 2,3 yrs to learn.. next year should be the trade down..

As I documented some weeks ago, nearly half of all the Super Bowl QBs did not play in that game with the QB that drafted them, so maybe the Browns should go with that philosophy.

I guess this approach is a result of being gun shy after all the bad choices they have made at that positions the last 20+ years.

(and yes, you can go back to Eric Zeier).

Otto Graham was not drafted by the Browns. Frank Ryan was not drafted by the Browns. Bill Nelsen was not drafted by the Browns. Brian Sipe was a 13th round pick....would have been a UDFA this day and age. Kosar was a supplemental pick. Vinny Testaverde was not drafted by the Browns.

Some of our half ass decent post 1999 QBs were not drafted by the Browns: Kelly Holcomb, Derek Anderson, Campbell, Hoyer, McCown.

Picking up a QB with high draft picks has been torture for Browns fans. Getting semi-proven young veterans would not be the worst modus operandi.

Yea....make Ghoolie happy. At least the Browns have had some success drafting OL. The last 4 we have taken in the first round before Erving were: Alex Mack, Joe Thomas, Jeff Faine, Steve Everitt. All good to outstanding players.

So? WTF...Draft Tunsil?

@miktoxic said:

Fair point I guess....take a look at the 2017 QBs. (these I think are all seniors....apparently no junior eligibles listed:

Chad Kelly QB 1 Ole Miss Jr 6-2 215

C.J. Beathard QB 2 Iowa rJr 6-2 209

Joshua Dobbs QB 3 Tennessee Jr 6-3 212

Seth Russell QB 4 Baylor rJr 6-2 220

Mitch Leidner QB 5 Minnesota rJr 6-4 236

Jeremy Johnson QB 6 Auburn Jr 6-5 240

Gunner Kiel QB 7 Cincinnati rJr 6-4 208

Nick Mullens QB 8 Southern Mississippi Jr 6-1 196

Baker Mayfield QB 9 Oklahoma rJr 6-0 209

Brady Gustafson QB 10 Montana rJr 6-6 235

Tyler O'Connor QB 11 Michigan State rJr 6-3 222

Thomas Sirk QB 12 Duke rJr 6-3 215

Wes Lunt QB 13 Illinois rJr 6-4 225

Cooper Rush QB 14 Central Michigan rJr 6-3 220

Dakota Prukop QB 15 Oregon rJr 6-1 200

Trevor Knight QB 16 Texas A&M rJr 6-1 207

Patrick Towles QB 17 Boston College rJr 6-4 240

Sefo Liufau QB 18 Colorado Jr 6-3 240

Greyson Lambert QB 19 Georgia rJr 6-4 220

Matt Johns QB 20 Virginia rJr 6-5 210

@miktoxic said:

As I see it, we would probably be no worse off. We missed on David Carr/Joey Harrington/Christian Ponder/Jamarcus Russell/Blaine Gabbert/Jake Locker/Vince Young/Mark Sanchez/....and we can miss on these guys too. There are a few more we should have missed on as well......JMZ/Weeden/Quinn.

@mark-o said:

Well, I have been over this. Different reports have said that half the NFL GMs think that neither QB is top of the draft quality.

Other prognosticators had early on said the same as well.

And with this I am only reporting what I hear, yet some don't like it and think I have made this shit up. I haven't.

But I have no doubt that these QBs will be drafted high. QBs are at a premium, and just the chance to get one will make team perhaps overreach.

And my position is: if we do get one of them, then I hope he is the second coming of Otto Graham.

@the-gipper said:

Not sure how much speculation there is that the QB's are overrated. I've heard a lot of good things about both of the top 2 QBs. I still wouldn't be shocked if we trade out of #2 and even if we don't, I wouldn't be shocked at all if we don't draft a QB.

@d-bone said:

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/4/18/11456084/adam-schefter-says-browns-arent-going-qb-at-no-2-trade

Adam Schefter Says Browns Aren't Going QB at No. 2, and Are Taking the Highest Bidder for a Trade

Schefter caught everyone off guard with his response about Cleveland having decided already that they are not thinking quarterback at No. 2, but instead are selling that quarterback to the highest bidder. Here is a transcript on what he said about the Browns:

Nothing Adam likes better than a good scoop... accuracy optional...

I love the dead-fish stares he gets on NFL Insiders when he goes on and on about something, spouting old info like it was new. Bill Polian is the best dead fish of all...

@hoorta said: