@clevfan4life said:

Why were expecting anything at all ftom a man who still has mommy wash his steelers undies?

Correction Steelers underwear is not customarily washed.

WSS

@gftchris said:

I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting much from you, and you still disappointed.

Why were expecting anything at all ftom a man who still has mommy wash his steelers undies?

@calfoxwc said:

Again this is a speculation piece. Everyone tried to predict the apocalypse and it didn't happen.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-20150613-column.html

http://www.dailynews.com/environment-and-nature/20150731/why-hasnt-californias-cap-and-trade-pollution-program-been-a-model-for-us

read:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/california-to-lose-18000-jobs-in-2015-due-to-hidden-gas-tax-275324941.html

@calfoxwc said:

Again this paper was regionally done in the NORTHEAST, not California.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/study-cap-and-trade-kills-jobs/article/2558201

@calfoxwc said:

What you posted was a 2010 speculation piece. In 2013 AB 32 was enforceable in California and the three year history has been positive. So you can continue to trumpet what was possible in 2010 and I'll continue to discuss what is reality in 2016.

@baconhound said:

I was going to have a discussion about how Cap and Trade has been successfully implemented in California and then was like oh fuck them fuckers are changing the picture on the paper I trade for goods and services, fuck no!

That's a strange pivot for a Harriet Tubman thread.

WSS

out of companies and californians.

Read what I posted. The extra cost to consumers.

That's a whole lot of people who have to pay an extra 800 bucks for energy.

asswipes.

@calfoxwc said:

I'm not going to post the 30+ links that discuss the positive results from the implementation as opposed to your speculation piece from 2010.

https://assets.enviance.com/repository/pdf/economic_impact_of_capandtrade_study.pdf

We have estimated the following impacts: → An annual effective cost increase to the typical family of four to be $818 the first year growing to $2800 in 2020, if market clearing prices for permits are $60 dollars per ton. Those figures are $270 and $930 if permit prices are at $20 and as much as $2720 to over $9330 per family if prices clear at $200 per ton. Costs increase for most goods and services. These cost increases are average for the population, although some residents may be compensated through a partial return of auction revenues. → Annual job losses to the California Economy of 76,000 to 107,000 the first year growing to perhaps 485,000 jobs in 2020, assuming a market clearing price of $60 per ton. These are net jobs losses, accounting for lost jobs and for jobs created by redirecting revenues collected from the auctions. →Lost economic activity of nearly 2% of gross state product, or about $250 to 350 billion over ten years. Much of this derives from reductions in productivity across the economy, and negative trade implications due to reduced competitiveness.

Table 1 Summary Findings of Net Impact Year and Permit Clearing Price Impact on Family Jobs Lost 2012 @$60 $818 76,000-107,000 @$20 $270 25,500-35,700 @$200 $2720 255,000 2020 @$60 $2800 485,000 @$20 $930 162,000 @$200 $9330 1,617,000 There is uncertainty about how auction revenues would be re-distributed in the economy. To the extent the revenue is captured in a special fund under the control of CARB, the legislature would have limited state budget authority and flexibility. This is a significant concern given the potentially large amount of revenue (collecting in 8 years, fully 120% of the single year 2009/2010 state budget1 ) to be raised by an auction tax.

@furious-styles said:

You're a dipshit.

@furious-styles said:

Become ? What can be more bizarre that holding other people in bondage enforced through torture, rape and the separation of families based on skin color ? Now THAT'S a bizarre country for you.

Slavery has been around literally since the dawn of mankind and continues to exist today in certain cultures. Few nations would have fought such a decisive and brutal war to put an end to it.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

What a bizarre country we have become.

@westside-steve said:

Scary brown people.

@the-cysko-kid said:

@westside-steve said:

He will be on the 10 after Hillary is elected.

WSS

That'll put those televangelists in a pickle when it comes to their "donations".

@jrb12711 said:

You is figurative there, but spend 5 minutes looking around the news and Google and you'll see plenty of people acting like they just put Satan on the bill.

He will be on the 10 after Hillary is elected.

WSS

@the-cysko-kid said:

You is figurative there, but spend 5 minutes looking around the news and Google and you'll see plenty of people acting like they just put Satan on the bill.

@westside-steve said:

http://www.usacoinbook.com/coins/5527/dollars/presidential/2013-P/william-howard-taft/

Now here is something that myself and millions of other fat people can get behind as long as we're pandering

WSS

Now here is something that myself and millions of other fat people can get behind as long as we're pandering

WSS

@jrb12711 said:

Another example of "this makes absolutely no difference in my life" that people are way too pissed off about. I can't imagine being so angry about absolutely insignificant details of my daily life like some people are.

Did somebody express anger over it? My reaction is sort of half caring bewilderment at best.

@westside-steve said:

And you keep on bitching and crying about slavery. Deal?

WSS

Hahaha. When was the last time I did that?