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@tour2ma said:

Agree, as much as I would like to see the Browns take Jack, they are in no position to be taking such risks. They need someone that at least initially seems reliable.

@harry-buffalo said:

Good to see you Harry... I miss disagreeing with you...

I pass on Jack... zero risk tolerance year.

I do like the trade down... up to maybe 9 spots.

@poeticg said:

On one leg?

40 inch vert

@clevfan4life said:

As would I at #8, but the net gain for a R1 pick would be dependant upon which Kruger we were replacing... the 2014 or the 2015.

@tour2ma said:

basically replace kruger wiith Bosa....I would be totally ok with that.

@suomi said:

lol... well in that case... hope you're as bored as the rest of us after ~21:00 CDT...

@tour2ma said:

So much for amassing picks...

Ramsey is an analytics pick. Jack is to reward me for watching the entire first round.

@mike-h said:

Bosa can play multiple positions in multiple fronts.

"That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. "

Not a question of "can". It's "how well"... Bosa is going to be a good, even a very good, player. But the more time he spends outside in a 4-3 facing his opponent's #2 OT, the better he will do. Drop him inside in 3rd and longs and he'll have moments there as well.

As for Horton's approach... I seem to recall the same being said in 2013... and it not being born out once the season started. Sure we'll see predictable, situational looks, but multiple looks haven't truly been featured by a Browns defense since Ryan and Mangini left town.

At #32 trade up if Myles Jack drops into the 20's (but not at 22...).

@mike-h said:

Bosa can play multiple positions in multiple fronts.

And that's how Ray Horton plays defense.

From the horse's mouth:

"That's the most important thing to me – what do we look like, not what we line up in. We may be a 3-4 on one snap. We may be a 4-3 on another snap. I guarantee you we'll be a 5-2 sometimes, and we'll be a 4-4 sometimes. We are a multi-front, attacking defense, and that's the most important thing."[/size]

"That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. It will be predicated by what the offense does. We have athletes that can stand up, that can put their hand in the ground, that can run, so that's why I go back to the multi-front defense."[/size]

I don't think there's even a question other than if he'll be available at 8.[/size]

And that's how Ray Horton plays defense.

From the horse's mouth:

"That's the most important thing to me – what do we look like, not what we line up in. We may be a 3-4 on one snap. We may be a 4-3 on another snap. I guarantee you we'll be a 5-2 sometimes, and we'll be a 4-4 sometimes. We are a multi-front, attacking defense, and that's the most important thing."

"That may mean one snap being 5-2, the next snap it may be 4-4. It will be predicated by what the offense does. We have athletes that can stand up, that can put their hand in the ground, that can run, so that's why I go back to the multi-front defense."

I don't think there's even a question other than if he'll be available at 8.

@mike-h said:

Really strong hands.

I'd say something, but we've been getting along so well...

For me Bosa is still a question of scheme fit.

Really strong hands.

@mike-h said:

He doesn't seem explosive/twitchy enough to me, although I admit I haven't seen him play very much.

@hoorta said:

I really was in favor of trading down and picking him but this knee thing scares me. I think we have to take a pass...sure he could turn out to be LT but he also could be out of the league in a year with a crap knee.