Looking at this... holy shit this team needs a lot of work.

@tour2ma said:

If they go to 15, it is so that TEN can take Tunsil likely....or Stanley. If the Browns wanted an OT, I don't think they do the trade down....except to get another 2d rounder.

@the-gipper said:

That's why we trade with TEN down to 15... Taylor Decker, baybee....

@gftchris said:

No, we need help at WR. Talent. It is too much to hope for to get what we need that much later. For all the guys you mention there are a dozen Vince Mayles.

@the-gipper said:

I would be quite happy with a tackle at one of those spots. Honestly, if we get Elliott at 8 and a RT at #32, run the damn ball a lot, get RG3 on the bootlegs and play actions, we could be on to something. Hit on a late round receiver like a diggs, brown, bryant, or whoever, and things only get better.

@gftchris said:

Right, that's right.

Yea, we need a RT....but not at 8 or 32. Need playmakers.

@gftchris said:

Who did Pasztor fill in for? Greco? Bito?

@logicisforsquares said:

Where did he play for us last year? OG or OT? If I recall he did a pretty serviceable job.

@the-gipper said:

Won't Austin Pasztor also be in this mix.

He was awful with the Jags when they tried him at RT. At guard, he performed well enough.

@mark-o said:

RightO MarkO.....we can't count on Gordon.....thus why I chose 2 WRs in top 4 rounds.

Lets just hope one of them isn't a Vincent fucking Mayle.

@poeticg said:

He hasn't stayed clean knowing the consequences. Can't count on it happening going forward.

Well, this is good in theory....and you should be right about it....our former 1st and 2d round pick OLBs SHOULD put pressure on the passer....but I certainly cannot count on Mingo at this point.....so I just want more to go along with Orchard, Mingo, Kruger.

If the Browns stay at 8, I see them taking a Bosa or Buckner, whomever is still on the board.

The Offensive Line will be stout with moving McGovern to ROT. He's versatile and could go to G or OT, I'll work him at the RT spot and go: Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovern

Yea, No, I am not relying on a rookie OG to move to Tackle. That, to me, is a recipe for failure.

Zeke would be the de facto Starter. Duke would be the change of pace back. Marshall would come in when Zeke needs a rest. This would be a great stable of RB's to compete. They are all young and should have the RB spots covered for several years to come. Marshall would be an upgrade over Crowell. He's got another gear few players have.

I don't see this guy replacing the Crow. If they were to take him, he would be in the mix to be the 4th string RB instead of Winston/Mostert. Can he return kicks?

@gumby73 said:

Won't Austin Pasztor also be in this mix.

@poeticg said:

Poe, clean your room & put your toys away (mock monster). I scouted him in Raleigh, NC where he was a HS track star. Love the kid & has the heart of Gurley (also a track star). Mostly sat behind Gurley at Ga. BUT the man has not takin a football hit in over 2 years & not many in college. The NFL, that's a big leap of faith.. Hope he can, great kid

He'll reapply for reinstatement in August. Provided there is no more red flags he should be reinstated promptly. He should be ready for preseason. He's been staying in great shape and will play like a man possessed when he is given the chance again. I'm counting on him, I trust that he knows what is at stake. Griffin to Gordon, all day - all day.

This is after the injury, still blazing speed. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder being drafted late as well...

Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (B+)

Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Karl Joseph, SS/FS, West Virginia (A+)

Round 3 Pick 14: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (

Round 4 Pick 1: Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A-)

Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (A+)

Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Willie Henry, DT, Michigan (B+)

Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)

Round 6 Pick 1: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Germany

Round 7 Pick 6 (MIA): Cody Core, WR, Ole Miss (A)

Round 7 Pick 10 (MIA): Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia (A+)

But, I see some aspects of this being OK, others perhaps not:

It's all in how you look at it.

You ignored getting a pass rusher and the OT position

For Pass Rusher, I'm banking on a rejuvenated and rebuilt Mingo. He and Kruger in the right defensive scheme will work pretty well. I'm also thinking we have a young couple of guys that we've not really tapped into yet.. Nate Orchard?

The Offensive Line will be stout with moving McGovern to ROT. He's versatile and could go to G or OT, I'll work him at the RT spot and go: Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovern

We don't need another RB if they get Zeke.

Zeke would be the de facto Starter. Duke would be the change of pace back. Marshall would come in when Zeke needs a rest. This would be a great stable of RB's to compete. They are all young and should have the RB spots covered for several years to come. Marshall would be an upgrade over Crowell. He's got another gear few players have.

I don't think they need to draft 2 TEs and 3 WRs.

Not that there is anything wrong with your choices, it is what you ignored that is a problem as I see it.

Though....what does Marshall give us that Mostert/Watson/Winston don't?

RB- Zeke, Duke, Marshall, Crow

WR- (Gordon), Doctson/Coleman, Boehringer, Pryor, Core, Gabe/Hawkins, Hartline (9 WRs? Too many on a 53

I wouldn't go with 9 WRs, I'd see it like this...

#1-Gordon. I'm counting on him being reinstated and rejuvenating his career as one of the most dominant WRs in the game.

#2-Josh Doctson OR Corey Coleman. Whichever one I can get, hoping one is there with our second pick...

#3-Mortiz Boehringer. I see him becoming a force. He plays hard. Catches everything and runs like a gazelle on fire.

#4-Terrel Pryor. All the arrows seem to be pointing upward on him making the transition to a really good WR. He Blocks.

#5-Hartline. He's probably the weakest link in the group... and that's not a bad thing. Solid possession guy.

#6-Taylor Gabriel OR Andrew Hawkins. I see them as similar type players. If we get Coleman he's better than both combined.

This was much more detailed before I deleted or clicked off or something...

@unsympathetic said:

How do we know what Telfer can do? He was just a rookie last year, primarily placed on the taxi squad, no? Or do you want to go fairly high with a TE pick?

(and can you say that you would be OK with my choice of baby Gronk in rd. 7 at FB?)

None of the current TE's can block.. that needs to change for the run game. I don't care what else happens as long as these get fixed.