In any case, Ogbah needs to get way better in run defense. I wish they would just put those guys in a room and make them watch Bosa's tape over and over and over....than show them their college tape. See how you let that OL get up inside you?

@londonbrown said:

Browns have Post Traumatic Manziel Disease so if they even see a kid once had a drink in a bar or smiled in the interview when Vegas came up, he was automatically removed from the board.

@mudfly said:

I agree with this. However, the guys we have, while supposedly being pass rush specialists, suck at pass rushing in real life. So if Ogbah can just pass rush well, he's already an improvement. Lol

Which is to say...

@tour2ma said:

Not feeling Ogbah Kruger at OLB... not at all...

Both are de facto DEs...

@tour2ma said:

Not feeling Ogbah at OLB... not at all...

I think he might be able to be Kruger -esque. But it's going to take a long while. I don't expect double digit sacks from him... probably ever. 6-8 and hopefully a force against the run. If he can do that in a year or two ill consider it a home run.

Id rather seem him strap on a few pounds and play DE, along with Nassib and try to develop Schobert, Orchard, Mingo, Kirksey etc as the OLB's......

@clevelandfanforlife said:

Exactly. None of us are going to know how good this kid or this draft is until midway through the season.

WE have a head coach who wanted to come HERE, of all places. We hate to admit it, but this has been a dungeon/graveyard for years. Give Hue, Horton, Pep some time.

I'm 53, seen just about everything except a Super Bowl. It sucks to wait but I'm willing NOW because we look like we have a plan. Now if only Haslam can be patient, we'll all be happy here.

In any case, I agree Lawson was the pick I'd we weren't gonna take spence. Don't know why we didn't take spence if we were targeting nassib in the 3rd.

be coached up, and really make a difference in the pass rush.

Nice picks.

@tour2ma said:

I was just enforcing the point that the Colts defense was built to rush the passer and play with a lead. When that wasn't the case they were taken to task for it.

@tiamat63 said:

So a tweener?

@tiamat63 said:

I'd like to point out that Indy style defense was great when Peyton and Co. put up points but when the Patriots and Chargers were patient enough to run the ball - that defense had zero answer.

edit: Nassib is going to the 5tech. That simple.

What's a "tech"?

I'd like to point out that I did not say Indy's style worked. It had it's moments (mostly when Bob Sanders was healthy) when they had a healthy lead, but more often, it did not pan out.

@tour2ma said:

I'd like to point out that Indy style defense was great when Peyton and Co. put up points but when the Patriots and Chargers were patient enough to run the ball - that defense had zero answer.

edit: Nassib is going to the 5tech. That simple.

@mike-h said:

Connected guy I know saysNassib and Ogbah will both play OLB and rush passer

Hue jackson has said in his presser after drafting nassib that he will play defensive end ur guy is wrong about him.

- He doesn't have the dip and bend ability to get under a tackle and consistently turn the corner

- Rarely uses his hands

- No counter move to speak of

- No setup move either

- Don't see the lateral agility to move to OLB

The good.

- Long arms

- Good burst and get off

- Decent strength

- Good awareness stacking and shedding to the ball carrier

I don't see the transition to backer going well without losing 10-15 pounds.

I still believe this team would have been better served by going Lawson, trading down, taking Michael Thomas then working from there. This kid is Krugers replacement in time, I feel Lawson was more naturally suited and already had reps at a similar SOLB spot.

260 lb LBs across the field?

An Indy-style, undersized, 3-4 D from the 2000's?

@wargograw said:

So why not just take a guy or two that actually have played OLB? Now we're counting on two guys to shed 15 pounds and learn new positions. It's odd.

He was awesome in a couple games (or so I've heard), but the cut-downs I saw not so much. If a coach can find his "kill switch" and remove it, then maybe he works out.

Nassib? Just the opposite. All motor... but he lacks Ogbah's physical gifts... which can't be taught.

Dunno maybe we can mate them...

Or maybe we are going to a 4-3...

Beats the fuck outta me...

@jcam222 said:

So you are saying someone with half a brain would pick 20 others? Probably so considering half a brain would be a dumbass. thankfully we have someone with a WHOLE brain making the pick.

@flyin-j said:

Anyone with half a brain would have picked at least 20 other guys over Ogbah