@nickers said:

yep and ohio state had some of the best talent in the draft this year so.......

it's like picking a 2nd stringer from a deep national championship team (whoever/whenever) or some 'sure-fire' guy from a division II school. my bet goes on the 2nd stringer.

@flugel said:

When you're done crying - I'm still waiting for your Mo Clarett to gain his 1st yard after Ohio State. Sounds like I better watch the re-airing of "The Longest Yard" to make sure I didn't miss it.

We DID draft somebody from Ohio State within the last 10 years - your boy Brian Robiskie in round 2 in 2009. More Rich4needingmemoryedits?

My favorite Buckeye in this draft was Zeke Elliott, which isn't much different than Urban Meyer's fave. That said, a FO full of Harvard intellect thought why don't we just bulk up this year's draft volume to 14 guys plus add a 1st and a 2nd round pick to the 2017 draft while we address some glaring weaknesses like edge rush, WR, LB and oline depth? As many previous drafts reminded us - 1 guy can either get injured or never live up to the hype or both. If we've longed for a different approach from our FO, adding draft picks while emphasizing the WR position and edge rushers in a passing era as well as adding RG3 at humbled prices plus drafting a QB with an ideal TD to INT ratio and completion percentage of 67.5 in 3 years of starting at USC is pretty good. Just out of curiosity from all this Ohio State hype, how many times in your life have you seen Ohio State beat USC?

Nobody knows why Bosa was suspended but isn't it conceivable that Tunsil, who never once tested positive for marijuana during his SEC tenure, could have smoked it less frequently than Bosa last season? Gee, why would a place like Cleveland need to worry about something like that today? If Bosa didn't wear an Ohio State uniform - you would have been happy to notice the games he brought his C game to wondering if the next Jadeveon Clowney wasn't getting overblown. Willie McGinest wasn't nearly as impressed with Bosa on film as Ohio State homers clinging to their Illinois game. He's good but I don't think asking him to worry about covering the flats more frequently than he's had to makes his transition the piece of cake some are assuming it will be in San Diego. Kam Wimbley had a very good rookie year here when all he was asked to do was worry about sic em and sack em. The next year teams countered with throwing at his flats and guess who never got a 2nd contract in Cleveland? If you want to make Bosa the next the JJ Wattshisname - you put him in a 4-3 with a hand down for sic em, sock em and sack em rather than asking him to worry about back pedaling to a zone coverage. Thinking can cause just enough hesitation to prevent a guy like Bosa from playing fast. Mario Williams will be happy to tell people the difference between a good situation and a bad one for a guy born to rush the passer and I'm sure he can break out the difference in sack volumes to reflect it.

This draft has some exciting Buckeyes in it no doubt. We're going to see which ones were drafted too high and which ones were great picks.

Sure Buckeye players are nice.. But picking for sentimental value is not gonna help your team.. Most of us here understand that. It ultimately comes down to the system a team is running and trust.. That is trusting that player to flourish in said system.. However. Im not really big on the system as I am on "talent".. Everything starts with raw talent. Then, learning how to play the game.

@rich4eagle said:

When you're done crying - I'm still waiting for your Mo Clarett to gain his 1st yard after Ohio State. Sounds like I better watch the re-airing of "The Longest Yard" to make sure I didn't miss it.

We DID draft somebody from Ohio State within the last 10 years - your boy Brian Robiskie in round 2 in 2009. More Rich4needingmemoryedits?

My favorite Buckeye in this draft was Zeke Elliott, which isn't much different than Urban Meyer's fave. That said, a FO full of Harvard intellect thought why don't we just bulk up this year's draft volume to 14 guys plus add a 1st and a 2nd round pick to the 2017 draft while we address some glaring weaknesses like edge rush, WR, LB and oline depth? As many previous drafts reminded us - 1 guy can either get injured or never live up to the hype or both. If we've longed for a different approach from our FO, adding draft picks while emphasizing the WR position and edge rushers in a passing era as well as adding RG3 at humbled prices plus drafting a QB with an ideal TD to INT ratio and completion percentage of 67.5 in 3 years of starting at USC is pretty good. Just out of curiosity from all this Ohio State hype, how many times in your life have you seen Ohio State beat USC?

Nobody knows why Bosa was suspended but isn't it conceivable that Tunsil, who never once tested positive for marijuana during his SEC tenure, could have smoked it less frequently than Bosa last season? Gee, why would a place like Cleveland need to worry about something like that today? If Bosa didn't wear an Ohio State uniform - you would have been happy to notice the games he brought his C game to wondering if the next Jadeveon Clowney wasn't getting overblown. Willie McGinest wasn't nearly as impressed with Bosa on film as Ohio State homers clinging to their Illinois game. He's good but I don't think asking him to worry about covering the flats more frequently than he's had to makes his transition the piece of cake some are assuming it will be in San Diego. Kam Wimbley had a very good rookie year here when all he was asked to do was worry about sic em and sack em. The next year teams countered with throwing at his flats and guess who never got a 2nd contract in Cleveland? If you want to make Bosa the next the JJ Wattshisname - you put him in a 4-3 with a hand down for sic em, sock em and sack em rather than asking him to worry about back pedaling to a zone coverage. Thinking can cause just enough hesitation to prevent a guy like Bosa from playing fast. Mario Williams will be happy to tell people the difference between a good situation and a bad one for a guy born to rush the passer and I'm sure he can break out the difference in sack volumes to reflect it.

This draft has some exciting Buckeyes in it no doubt. We're going to see which ones were drafted too high and which ones were great picks.

@mike-h said:

yeah i'm so obsessed that i knew you were a vet.

and alcoholism IS fun. you should try it. maybe people wouldn't think you're such a dried up cunt.

@mike-h said:

HA! yeah it'll suck for you as well getting old. that is if the world is around long enough for that to happen since you little lazy faggots don't have the balls to go protect this country.

when ISIS parachutes into your community college campus (like red dawn) you'll have no where to run, no mommy's skirt to run under and your girlfriend won't be able to fight that battle for ya. yeah you might actually have to put your phone down for a minute to put your hands up while they cut off your head.

good luck pal.

oh btw, good to hear from ya. when i mentioned you in that post i just picked your name out of a hat of assholes on this board....... so don't feel so special.

Must be terrible to be old, bitter and filled with regret. At least you're not alone, you have a pretty big group in your situation to commiserate with.

@miktoxic said:

@tour2ma said:

Point being that OSU is not pro-style. BAMA is.

fixed it.

thank god i don't know that much about college football or for that matter, pro football. i'd be the east coast version of PoG, mike h and Retarded if i did.

@miktoxic said:

Point being that OSU is not pro-style. BAMA is.

@tour2ma said:

bama, osu whoever. what is cleveland allergic to columbus?

@tour2ma said:

Bama, OSU, and probably a few other schools.

People are talking about DeShaun Watson.......what kind of system does he play in college? Pro style, spread, whatever?

One Post From the Truth said:

Looking at the list, I think it is probably about 50/50 good players vs. not so good players. And you listed everyone.....including flyers in like the 6th/7th rounds who don't generally have good chances. I would say OSU has probably done as well as any school.

@miktoxic said:

Are you talking about BAMA now?

doesn't it just make sense as a gn to look at the best team in the ncaa that play pro-style and won the national championship and try to snag some 3-4 year starters?

DUH!

@the-gipper said:

No, you are. Your idea. You run with it.

YEAR RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION TEAM

2015 2 37 Devin Smith WR New York Jets

2015 3 92 Jeff Heuerman TE Denver Broncos

2015 4 121 Doran Grant CB Pittsburgh Steelers

2015 6 180 Michael Bennett DT Jacksonville Jaguars

2015 6 187 Evan Spencer WR Washington Redskins

2014 1 15 Ryan Shazier OLB Pittsburgh Steelers

2014 1 31 Bradley Roby CB Denver Broncos

2014 2 57 Carlos Hyde RB San Francisco 49ers

2014 2 59 Jack Mewhort T Indianapolis Colts

2014 5 161 Corey Linsley C Green Bay Packers

2014 7 241 Christian Bryant DB St. Louis Rams

2013 2 49 Johnathan Hankins DT New York Giants

2013 4 129 John Simon LB Baltimore Ravens

2013 7 240 Reid Fragel OT Cincinnati Bengals

2012 2 56 Mike Adams T Pittsburgh Steelers

2012 3 68 DeVier Posey WR Houston Texans

2012 6 191 Dan Herron RB Cincinnati Bengals

2012 6 197 Nate Ebner DB New England Patriots

2011 1 31 Cameron Heyward DE Pittsburgh Steelers

2011 4 113 Chimdi Chekwa DB Oakland Raiders

2011 5 158 Jermale Hines DB St. Louis Rams

2011 6 193 Brian Rolle LB Philadelphia Eagles

2011 6 200 Ross Homan LB Minnesota Vikings

2010 4 116 Thaddeus Gibson LB Pittsburgh Steelers

2010 7 242 Doug Worthington DE Pittsburgh Steelers

2010 7 244 Kurt Coleman FS Philadelphia Eagles

2010 7 252 Austin Spitler LB Miami Dolphins

2009 1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB New Orleans Saints

2009 1 31 Beanie Wells RB Arizona Cardinals

2009 2 35 James Laurinaitis LB St. Louis Rams

2009 2 36 Brian Robiskie WR Cleveland Browns

2009 4 102 Donald Washington DB Kansas City Chiefs

2009 4 108 Brian Hartline WR Miami Dolphins

2009 5 154 Marcus Freeman OLB Chicago Bears

2008 1 6 Vernon Gholston LB New York Jets

2008 7 214 Larry Grant OLB St. Louis Rams

2008 7 247 Kirk Barton T Cincinnati Bengals

2007 1 9 Ted Ginn Jr. WR Miami Dolphins

2007 1 32 Anthony Gonzalez WR Indianapolis Colts

2007 3 98 Quinn Pitcock DT Indianapolis Colts

2007 4 107 Antonio Pittman RB New Orleans Saints

2007 5 138 Jay Richardson DE Oakland Raiders

2007 5 169 Roy Hall WR Indianapolis Colts

2007 5 174 Troy Smith QB Baltimore Ravens

2007 6 198 Doug Datish C Atlanta Falcons

2006 1 5 A.J. Hawk OLB Green Bay Packers

2006 1 8 Donte Whitner SS Buffalo Bills

2006 1 18 Bobby Carpenter LB Dallas Cowboys

2006 1 25 Santonio Holmes WR Pittsburgh Steelers

2006 1 29 Nick Mangold C New York Jets

2006 3 70 Ashton Youboty CB Buffalo Bills

2006 3 76 Anthony Schlegel LB New York Jets

2006 4 121 Nate Salley DB Carolina Panthers

2006 4 128 Rob Sims G Seattle Seahawks

2005 2 47 Mike Nugent K New York Jets

2005 3 80 Dustin Fox DB Minnesota Vikings

2005 3 101 Maurice Clarett -- Denver Broncos

2004 1 18 Will Smith DE New Orleans Saints

2004 1 28 Chris Gamble CB Carolina Panthers

2004 1 29 Michael Jenkins WR Atlanta Falcons

2004 3 68 Ben Hartsock TE Indianapolis Colts

2004 3 74 Tim Anderson DT Buffalo Bills

2004 3 87 B.J. Sander P Green Bay Packers

2004 3 88 Darrion Scott DE Minnesota Vikings

2004 4 100 Alex Stepanovich C Arizona Cardinals

2004 4 111 Will Allen SAF Tampa Bay Buccaneers

2004 5 148 Craig Krenzel QB Chicago Bears

2004 5 163 Drew Carter WR Carolina Panthers

2004 5 165 Rob Reynolds LB Tennessee Titans

2004 7 209 Shane Olivea T San Diego Chargers

2004 7 227 Adrien Clarke G Philadelphia Eagles

2003 2 58 Mike Doss SS Indianapolis Colts

2003 3 79 Kenny Peterson DE Green Bay Packers

2003 3 86 Cie Grant LB New Orleans Saints

2003 4 112 Matt Wilhelm LB San Diego Chargers

2003 5 154 Donnie Nickey DB Tennessee Titans

2002 2 44 LeCharles Bentley G New Orleans Saints

2002 3 75 Derek Ross CB Dallas Cowboys

2002 4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Houston Texans

2002 4 122 Darnell Sanders TE Cleveland Browns

2002 4 129 Jamar Martin FB Dallas Cowboys

2002 5 167 Courtland Bullard LB St. Louis Rams

2002 6 179 Tyson Walter C Dallas Cowboys

2002 6 205 Steve Bellisari DB St. Louis Rams

2001 1 21 Nate Clements CB Buffalo Bills

2001 1 29 Ryan Pickett DT St. Louis Rams

2001 6 181 Rodney Bailey DE Pittsburgh Steelers

2001 7 214 Reggie Germany WR Buffalo Bills

2001 7 228 Derek Combs DB Oakland Raiders

2001 7 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Oakland Raiders

2000 1 24 Ahmed Plummer CB San Francisco 49ers

2000 4 98 Na'il Diggs OLB Green Bay Packers

2000 4 126 Gary Berry SAF Green Bay Packers

2000 5 144 Michael Wiley RB Dallas Cowboys

2000 7 223 James Cotton DE Chicago Bears

2000 7 228 Kevin Houser FB New Orleans Saints

This is in the last 15 yrs not including this year crop 'o flops. Only a handful worth a fuck.

@mld-woody said:

No, I'll clarify. If we had stayed at #2, I would have taken Wentz, assuming the Rams had taken Goff. I was only interested in Zeke when we dropped down to #8. When we dropped down again, it was BPA.

I do think Elliott is going to be an absolute stud, assuming he can stay healthy.

@hoorta said:

You wanted us to take a HB at #2....?

@the-gipper said:

Nah- Rich was inferring how damn great a guy is just because he played for Ohio State. Saw this on the Browns website:

"While the Browns passed on taking members of the Scarlet and Gray, don’t conflate that with a lack of appreciation or respect for what Urban Meyer and Ohio State have done in recent years.

“We like a lot of those guys. A lot of them,” Brown said. “ A lot of them were very high on our board.”

@hoorta said:

The question was what Ohio State players have the Browns drafted the past 10 years.

The Browns have drafted only 2 OSU players since 1999:

Darnell Sanders TE 2002

Brian Robiskie WR 2009

@rich4eagle said:

Hi there Rich, glad to see you make an appearance. FWIW, I wanted Zeke and Cardale. The trade down eliminated Elliot- but hey, we picked up a couple supposedly stud DL.

@rich4eagle said:

We keep ignoring the best damn team in the land a drafting another OL guy............best formula for losing ever

Had your head under a rock Rich? We lost Mack and Schwartz to free agency- is your idea of finding OL guys walking through the Muni Lot tailgate, and asking big guys if they ever played football? Damn, the Eagles gifted us a bunch of picks to take a guy from North Dakota State. LOL, I suppose we shouldn't have taken that running back from Syracuse- Jim Brown. Um Brett Favre went to Southern Mississippi. Too bad we passed on that guy from Purdue- Drew Brees.

@the-gipper said:

Not true, they drafted Robiskie somewhere in the last 10 years. Bust.

Craig Powell anyone? Though not drafted by the Browns, I can add Vernon Gholston, Dan Wilkinson, and Troy Smith to the bust list off the top of my head Gip. The entire OSU drafted players list as of last year wasn't too hard to find. Some studs, some bums- as is the case with ANY college.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=O&collegeName=Ohio+State&abbrFlag=0&type=school

Later rounds, I'm surprised we didn't take one. Even Braxton, if you're looking to try a bunch of WRs.

We still have Pryor though...

Side note: the Raves drafted one Michigan guy, and picked up three more as UDFAs. John is using Jim's program as a minor league team.

On the local team aspect, the Lions drafted two Michigan players.

what you WOULD have done before the fact.

Man up, dang it, and stick around, quit bein such an opportunistic drive-by'er with bitchies to vent.