VesnaKociper said:

You watch that HGTV show "Flip or Flop" much? Now you're off the Sashi & DePo bandwagon just because they didn't draft your guy Lynch? At least they didn't draft an offensive lineman till the third round- that should make you happy. Rich is all about playmakers- well, we drafted 4 wide receivers, plus a tight end, and a couple (supposedly) studly pass rushers. .

We did draft a quarterback- just not the one you wanted. Not particularity the one I wanted either, but we'll see- & see if you're right about Lynch.

I may not like it, but I get what the Browns are doing. Ray Farmer screwed up the Browns roster so badly it was impossible to fix in one year. There's more holes in it than Swiss cheese. If it wasn't for the damn tiebreaker, the Browns would have been drafting first this year, not the Titans. I'll put the over\under on Browns wins this year at 2 1\2. If you remember the mantra "Suck for Luck"- well, that's EXACTY what the Browns are doing- though they won't admit it. FWIW, next year's QB class is supposedly far superior to this years- and with all those extra selections- the Browns will almost certainly have the pick of the litter.

"So she painted on a smile and took up with some clown
While she danced without a net upon the wire

Fly high and proud
And if you should fall, remember you almost had it all.

Baby saw that when they pulled that big top down
They left behind her dreams among the litter"

@hoorta said:

Or, maybe he will be as good as Brian Sipe. Another skinny, weak armed SoCal boy.

(though....I expect him to be more like Paul McDonald.....fellow USC grad....a backup)

@opal312 said:

It was in my post: Dan France. One of the likely casualties.

With Haden healthy, Williams can go back to #2, where he's not so much of a liability, and an upgraded pass rush will help the back end out.

Horton and Pettine have opposite philosophies when it comes to D - Pettine is all about elite corners that can give the pass rush time to get home, Horton is all about not getting to the QB before the receivers come open.

@opal312 said:

Bito...

@d-bone said:

Gotta be a good sign that Bloodbath being cut.

Picked to start last year, can't make this year's training camp roster..

Another guy that beat out Mingo, by the way.

Zombo

The Cleveland Browns have terminated the contract of LB Scott Solomon and waived WR Saalim Hakim.

@westside-steve said:

Glad you brought up Dorsey Steve. Walter Football is making it sound like Kessler is worse than Dorsey..

@opal312 said:

Good point.

I guess they are thinking that Joe hasn't missed a snap yet, why should he start now?

We'll see who get reps at LT in preseason, They may play Coleman and Drango Unchained there just so they can feel for the position.

Zombo

@runyon27 said:

I think they are wise to hold on to McCown until they know what they have with Silk.

We may get offers for McCown if a QB or two around the league goes down in Camp.

Shaw and Davis are welcome to be camp arms, but aren't making the final roster.

Zombo

Zombo said:

Next year we'll know if we are going to be drafting a 'franchise' QB - if we're near the top, then yes, otherwise no. I can see only SF giving us competition, as it stands, for both QB and top spot.

Nassib - Shelton - Cooper

Ogbah - Scooby - Schobert - Orchard

Haden - Gilbert? - Kwan/Caldwell

Campbell -Kidrick.

Next year we will probably look to strengthen the DBs and add another ILB

Zombo

Zombo said:

JJ Nassib.

Zombo

Zombo said:

That. Based on speed - Ogbah runs a 4.6 40, Nassib a 4.8, and size - Nassib is a few inches taller, and can put on some muscle hopefully.

Also, it was talked about somewhere recently.

They were both 4-3 DEs in college, which is why some places will call them both DEs. Also, check out the OS roster - http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html - which lists Ogbah as LB.

@gftchris said:

Ourlads has both Nasib and Ogbah as DEs, you have Ogbah as LB, is it just semantics, as they are both "pass rushers" or do you see very different roles for them Nasib more with his hand in the dirt and Ogbah on the edge?

Then again, Ourlads still lists McCown as starting QB, and we know that won't be the case.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CLE

Zombo

On the OL, we keep Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Coleman + Pasztor, Drango and one more, could be anyone, probably a RT/RG.

At QB, I expect McCown to be cut/traded around august. Shaw will probably be gone, Davis most certainly. Keeping RG3, Kessler, plus one, maybe - Hue probably sees Pryor as the third string QB though if he stays.

At RB, Crow, Johnson, plus Mostert (for KR), maybe one more - the guy we brought over from Cinci?

TE - Barnidge, obviously. Outside of that, anyhting goes. DeValve quite possibly ends up on PS.

DL - Bryant, Shelton, Nassib; Cooper, Meder, and space for anyone to step up - Hughes, Wynn, or UDFA?

LB - Ogbah, Kirksey, Davis, Kruger; Mingo, Scooby, ??? Schoebert

CB - Haden, Williams, Gilbert, Desir, Williams, Taylor, maybe Caldwell to PS?

S - Poyer, Campbell, Kindred, Moore

ST guys probably stay the same, but we brought in a K to give Coons some competition.