@wargograw said:

As much or more.....about as good as any. Really the same thing.

Plus, we have to figure out your statistic: born there? Went to HS there? Went to college there?

But, just taking your stats, I thought PA would be much higher. I guess I should know better than to include Pittsburgh area into anything. I should just stick to Ohio.

The list you posted is not a per capita breakdown and there are 3 SEC states higher than any of the three you're pushing.

So to recap:

TX-1.16

LA-1.07 NFL draftees last year per million residents

AR-1.34

OH-1.21

PA-.7

NJ-.79

I see you're now switching to "about as good as any other region." Your original quote was "Ohio and Pa....which have as much or more talent per capita than any state....including any SEC state."

@wargograw said:

If I look at your numbers only I see that La. had 4.67 players per some per capita. Ohio had 11.61, Pa 12.8. NJ 8.9. The last time I had a math class, 11, 12, 8.9 were bigger than 4.67.

Only Texas adds any credibility to your argument. Here are other stats:

NFL PLAYER BREAKDOWN BY STATE

1. California 225

2. Florida 186

3. Texas 184

4. Georgia 95

5. Ohio 74

6. New Jersey 63

7. Louisiana 62

8. Pennsylvania 58

9. South Carolina 54

10. Virginia 50

As I said, Ohio/Pa/NJ about as good as any other region

@wargograw said:

No no,, his posts always have a certain comedic homerism value

Pennsylvania is in fact 26th on the list. All but one SEC state produces more talent per capita than Pennsylvania. Even Michigan produces more than Pennsylvania. Please just don't respond to this thread anymore.

www.scout.com/nfl/story/1463448-nfl-roster-breakdown-per-capita?s=127

In the last draft:

Texas-32 (population 27.47 million)

Louisiana-5 (4.67)

Arkansas-4 (2.98)

41 total (35.12 million)

Ohio-14 (11.61)

Pennsylvania-9 (12.8)

New Jersey-7 (8.9)

30 total (33.31 million)

I don't feel like doing any more research on this. So I'll be interested to see what route you take to prove your point.

Then, if you do miraculously figure out how to argue that those three states have more talent than the three I mentioned, pick another state and add Florida. Then pick another and add Georgia. Then pick another and add South Carolina. Happy spinning!

@wargograw said:

Per capita? I would say no. Not over Ohio and Pa....which have as much or more talent per capita than any state....including any SEC state.

Do other northern states match up as well. No, I suppose NH, Vermont and Maine don't.

However, even if that weren't true, what you said does nothing to help make your point that there is just as much talent up north.

@wargograw said:

Florida, Texas and California are from 3 different regions. You must be Retarded geographically.

@mld-woody said:

It hasn't been banned. He seems to be doing ok.

I remember when Malzahn was going to be the latest and greatest dude to give Saban nightmares. Cowherd went on some rant about how Malzahn was taking over. Then the other day he did his Harbaugh was taking over bit. Until someone actually does it, it doesn't matter. Urban Meyer's the only one with a legitimate claim to any haunting of Nick Saban at the moment, and even then it's only slight.

Let your play do the talking.

@wargograw said:

The complaints about up-tempo offenses were legitimate too. They've ruined the game to a degree. Fortunately a few dominant defenses still exist to stymie their impact.

It is an evolution of the game. People probably complained about the forward pass too. Sabans complaint is rooted in helping his team out on the field. Nothing else. Just like his satellite camp complain is all about keeping a recruiting advantage.

@the-gipper said:

Florida, Texas, California overall.

Louisiana, South Carolina, Georgia if you're going per capita.

This was a borderline Retarded statement.

@mld-woody said:

The complaints about up-tempo offenses were legitimate too. They've ruined the game to a degree. Fortunately a few dominant defenses still exist to stymie their impact.

@the-gipper said:

I was talking about everything.

Well then that is true in some cases, and not in others

@mld-woody said:

Ohio, Penn. NJ combined has as much talent as any three states of any region.

@mld-woody said:

I was talking about everything.

Alabama is sending some staffers to a camp in Detroit, Fyi.

@the-gipper said:

The reason that southern teams don't want to hold a satellite camp in the north is because they are big pussies that can't stand a little cold weather.

That sounds like you were very clearly talking about satellite camps...

@the-gipper said:

As I understand it, the satellite camps help a lot more players that are going to be playing at like the MAC or Sunbelt or even D-1AA schools than the guys headed for P5 conferences. The outcry about the satellite camp ban was from these level of schools, not the Big Boys (except Saban of course)

The only groups that came out against these camps were SEC and ACC coaches.

You're right though, the smaller schools get a huge benefit from these camps. Every group involved does for the most part, but those smaller schools do especially.