@stinkhole said:

Honestly....as WSS said, it really would have to be the guys that did truly evil things. Certainly as stated: Carruth, Hernandez, vick

Although on this list, Vick didn't even make it. You gotta really consider all these guys:

http://www.arrestrecords.com/the-15-worst-crimes-committed-by-nfl-players/

6 Murderers (including OJ, Hernandez, Carruth)

1 Accomplice to Murder (Lewis)

2 Rapes

1 Statutory rape (Hollywood Henderson)

1 Hit and run killer

1 Home invader

1 Theft and Drugs (Leaf)

1 Drug Dealer (not sure why he is in here)

but no Vick

@the-gipper said:

Well, it is not my list. It is the Sporting News. You really wouldn't like my list.....all Steelers and Bengals likely

I meant the list you posted. I'd love your list though. Can't imagine the who the players could be. LOL

@baconhound said:

Ward was very high on the Sporting News List......so for Steeler fans...it is NOT just Browns fans that thought he was a dirty player. It was everyone. As good as he could be, he was still a blindside cheapshot artist.

As for Joe Haden.....I am not buying your BS. Joe is one of the most beloved Browns players by Browns fans. And he was and possibly could be again one of the best corners in the league. He has had some injuries which have cause off years. So what.

This isn't about "which really good player has really disappointed you lately"....its about who you "hate" in a sport sense. Joe Haden has done nothing to be hateful toward. He has never been accused of murder (Ray Lewis), he has never beat his wife/girlfriend (Ray Rice...and others), He hasn't killed dogs (Vick), he is not a cheapshot artist (Romanowski/Ward), he has never been a cancer in the locker room....(someone mentioned Bowe)...he hasn't gotten drunk and run over anyone with his car etc. etc.

But let me ask this question: How can both Aaron Hernandez and Rae Carruth not be on this list? They have both been convicted of Murder.

Look, as much as we hate Vick....and he is by all means hateable.......Carruth and Hernandez killed people....and Carruth, correct me if I am wrong killed his own unborn child just so he didn't have to pay child support.

How can Rae Carruth not be the most hated and hateable NFL player ever. (I mean....if we are going by degrees, what he did is even worse in my mind that what Hernandez and OJ may have done.)

Fair to say?

@gumby73 said:

Good point.

@calfoxwc said:

Here you go.

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/alltime-roster

@flugel said:

We may have had a guy with Tourette's Syndrome.....and a guy that in theory Browns fans should "hate" in a sports sense: Bobby Garrett, #1 overall pick of the Cleveland Browns. Couldn't play because of stuttering problem. But that was so long ago and many didn't care because the Browns were winning then. Its not like a Tim Couch deal.

@stinkhole said:

Well, it is not my list. It is the Sporting News. You really wouldn't like my list.....all Steelers and Bengals likely

@the-gipper said:

How does Ray Rice not fit in this list? The Dude was a punk that called it "playing with a edge at his size". That day ended when Phil Taylor wanted to kill this little piece of shit. When Rice spit on him than says he was "removing his mouth piece". Did he have a mouthpiece in too when his fiancé pimp slapped him? F Ray Rice hated him from day 1..

Mike

VesnaKociper said:

He just pissed me off a lot. We would have a drive stop, and then he woudl do something stupid away from the play. I wanted to kill him at times.

Ya, I remember a couple of those. But best cover corner we ever had.

Z

Z

Zombo said:

Good stuff Z even if I gotta claim my Manziel baggage. When I was his age as a rookie/second year player, I was in a fraternity so I projected some degree of maturity once he entered his alleged dream career. Partying was once thought to be the reason Marino had a disappointing senior season prior to him falling all the way to Don Shula in the draft. Once he got drafted, the guy was a dialed in QB that clearly prioritized football.

Charles White was supposed to have a nose for the goal line when he arrived here. He must have learned really quickly they used a different white powder than he preferred.

Alzado was so juiced up - that everyone hated the guy especially his teammates that had to deal with him on and off the field every day. His sad ending was a lot like all those former drug addicts that wore the Pittsburgh Stee-roids uniforms that Sports Illustrated did a body count of premature deaths of guys before/around 50 years of age.

The hatred toward Colt McCoy seemed really over the top sometimes. The guy was a 3rd round draft that outplayed both of the much higher paid QBs Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme here. That said, he was a 3rd round QB drafted by a bad football team so I never understood why people were so disappointed he didn't look like a highly productive/well seasoned 1st rd draft pick. Maybe I was just drinking the wrong beer. Just 2 years ago in Washington, he clearly outperformed both Cousins and RG3. The 2 QBs drafted ahead of him were Tim Tebow in rd 1 and Jimmy Clausen in round 2. So what did McCoy cost this franchise on the margin of error our FO gave him? Not that much. If I was his dad when the guy calling our plays from the sidelines didn't see or hear the hit James Harrison put on him - I would have voiced my disapproval too just like any parent with more brain cells than Shurmur. Think about that knockout for a second. The ONLY person attending, participating in, or watching that game that didn't see or hear the knockout was the guy CALLING our offensive plays.

Who could forget Paul McDonald has the ball e-i-e-i-ouch and poor Todd "Football Follies" Philcox? We've seen just about every outrageous thing you can imagine from the QB position here except a QB with Tourette's syndrome getting flagged for F-bombs in the cadence.

I hate most players from most other teams just because, well they play for other teams.

I might hate guys that exhibit evil off-field behaviour or are team cancers.

Or if they play for the Steelers.

WSS

@the-gipper said:

Not yet really. Maybe later. He had good years, then trouble. Unlike Braylon, he has not been seen as a asshole. He could re-ingratiate himself. But sure, eventually, maybe.

It seems many browns fans had the same animosity toward Gordon as they did Johnny though, calling for him to be released after repeated drug offenses.

@the-gipper said:

If you want you can fill in some players from those 8 teams if you want. I think the 8 are:

Eagles

Jags

Bucs

Colts

Chiefs

Rams

Texans

Chargers.

Anyone from these teams history that are "hate" worthy? T.O go a lot of his bad rep as a member of the Eagles.

How is Warren Sapp of the Bucs not on your original list? That cheap shot trash talker even had death threats made against him.

A lot of people hate Philip Rivers of the Chargers. Surprised he's not on the original list either.

@canton-dawg said:

In Winslow's non-defense, stupid to try a reverse wheelie on a bike- especially without the proper training. A regular wheelie isn't too hard to pull off- even did a couple in my younger and stupider days. Just don't pop it so hard you go over backwards, and have the bike land on top of you.

@the-gipper said:

Of course the inclusion of JMZ in there as the only Browns player named begs this question: Which Browns player in their history do Browns fans really "hate" the most?

Candidates:

A. Mike Phipps. Came in trade for Paul Warfield, then seriously disappointed.

B. Anyone of Weeden, Quinn, Richardson, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren. Recent high picks that busted. Should Johnny be any more hated than these guys? (or is it the off field stuff that sets him apart)

C. The LB Triumvirate of Mike Junkin, Clifford Charlton and Craig Powell. All guys that could not play football. Junkin maybe gets some extra hate because he was taken so high and was bestowed with the Mad Dog in a Meat Market moniker?

D. Charles White. Heisman Trophy Winner, first round RB......who started coking up?

E. Willis Adams/Steve Holden...Braylon Edwards. the former two were just WR busts. Braylon was good, then bad, then became an asshole.

F. Todd Philcox. Asked to replace Bernie Kosar when he was released. One of dumbest moves in Browns history....but can't blame Philcox really....blame BB

Anyone else?

Zombo said:

Oh, yea, Rison for sure. He was just here for the money it seemed....and did diddley. I didn't get the same feeling as you about Alzado. While perhaps he was disappointed not being with the team he wanted to be with...probably the Raiders, he still gave his all here from what I can tell. I liked him.

Never felt the way you do about Garcia or Dilfer. Dilfer was just done, and Garcia was asked to be a square peg in a round hole. I wasn't sorry to see them go, but I had no animosity against them...except for the fact that they lost....but I understood the reasons for that.