@tiamat63 said:

Yes and no. Orchard is the WLB in our base sets. I do believe him capable of playing boundary looks in our four man front at OLB and of course as an edge rusher or 5th man.

U think he's fast enough to play olb'er in a 4-3? He'd be an awful big 4-3 olb'er. I know oakland used mack his first year in their 4-3 as an olb'er and he immediatrly became one of the best run stoppers in the league not just for rooks, grrrrrrr, but thats mack he's a freak

Zombo said:

Nope... Actually was my guess as well... went to verify and found:

In 1957 (Allie) returned to the Giants as a scout and then rejoined the coaching staff in 1959 as offensive coordinator, replacing Vince Lombardi when he was appointed head coach of the Green Bay Packers.^[3] Lombardi, a good friend, wanted Sherman to join him as the Packers' offensive coordinator, but Sherman wanted the Giants head coach position.

A couple links later came the right answer... I know I'd never have gotten it.

The Giants' 1956 championship team not only included players who would eventually find their way to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but a Hall of Fame coaching staff, as well. Head coach Jim Lee Howell's staff had Vince Lombardi coaching the offense and Tom Landry coaching the defense.^[19]

Jim Lee Who?

Zombo said:

He came later, I think. The name is like right on the tip of my brain, but it is not coming out.

@tour2ma said:

Yea, I was going to say Lombardi.

@clevfan4life said:

U want orchard in there as one of the 4-3 olb'ers? I read that wrong right?

Yes and no. Orchard is the WLB in our base sets. I do believe him capable of playing boundary looks in our four man front at OLB and of course as an edge rusher or 5th man.

@tour2ma said:

Allie Sherman?

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POP QUIZ Part Deux: Who was their HC?

@tour2ma said:

@tiamat63 said:

True on the 5-2, but by the time I "became aware" of pro football, Tom Landry had developed the 4-3 as NYG's DC... and the league never looked back. Except once when George Allen unexpectedly sprang it on an opponent in a playoff game (IIRC).

POP QUIZ: Who was Landry's OC counterpart with NYG?

@tiamat63 said:

5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)

As expected. In our four man front you'll see Orchard on passing downs. Until then he'll remain our starting WLB. I wouldn't mind seeing a package with Orchard, Ogba, Coop and Carl.

U want orchard in there as one of the 4-3 olb'ers? I read that wrong right?

@tour2ma said:

5-2 (unless you're an Okie fan then we'll call it the 34 Bud Wilkinson)

@clevfan4life said:

Listening to the ohfsn broadcast for the bears game, zegurs said that the starting rotation was in full 4-3 look....so that was ogbah and nassib. Orchard didnt comein till the 3-4 rotation came on later

@tiamat63 said:

In our base sets, Carl is not on the field.

Listening to the ohfsn broadcast for the bears game, zegurs said that the starting rotation was in full 4-3 look....so that was ogbah and nassib. Orchard didnt comein till the 3-4 rotation came on later

@gftchris said:

I'm well aware. In a 4-3 we only get two of Orchard, Ogbah and Nassib on the field though, and in a 3-4 we can get 3. So there's that.

In our base sets, Carl is not on the field.

@clevfan4life said:

I'm well aware. In a 4-3 we only get two of Orchard, Ogbah and Nassib on the field though, and in a 3-4 we can get 3. So there's that.

@gftchris said:

Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.

Both nassib and ogbah are 4-3 guys mate. In fact, if sny of those two could hack the 3-4 i think its nassib. Ogbah is way too stiff for 3-4 olb'er

@tour2ma said:

@the-gipper said:

Not like there were a lot of other choices in the 60's and 70's...

@gftchris said:

The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.

I've always liked Hughes best as a 4-3 DT.

@logicisforsquares said:

Nope. But Nassib does somewhat in that role. Still a single offseason with a decent investment at the position and a 4-3 is very possible. Though you could say the same about the 3-4, just need a top DE.

@gftchris said:

Paea could be something but the others are filler.

Do any of them give you the warm and fuzzies as 3-4 DTs?

@logicisforsquares said:

Sure. Any of those guys get your motor going as 4-3 DTs? Not quite Geno Atkins and Gerald McCoy.

@gftchris said:

Paea, Cooper, Hughes.

@logicisforsquares said:

The only issue I see with switching to a 4-3 is that whilst Shelton and Meder would be OK in the middle, we're a bit thin thereafter. Cooper, maybe, Hughes maybe.