@d-bone said:

Seems appropriate.

@the-gipper said:

Exactly. I watched him during recess, (with binoculars) and then his little league games too, and just knew he would be the greatest thing ever, and after 1 game against the NFL's worst defense, it looks like I was right...... What do I win for being the greatest, bestest, smartest, most knowing of all things Browns' football member of this forum?

I'm guessing I win the coveted Ghoolie award? ( a dildo wedged in the mouth of a manikin that looks like Ghoolie, all neatly displayed in a shadowbox )

@d-bone said:

This Forum has existed since about when Wentz was in second grade. So, if you were talking about him then, I want you to give me those 6 little magic numbers, since you are so prescient.

I didn't even really bother reading all that nonsense. Hell, I barely gave it the classic email type skimming. Just checked out completely.

I think for the first time I'm just going to use the ignore feature. Should solve future issues.

I have no idea who was first about Wentz. Somebody started the

official camp well before I started posting about him.

but I was watching the kid play football during the season at every chance.

I was a huge Wentz fan. Tried to rank Goff up there, too. Didn't work well, lost interest, then

ended up really not seeing it as a fit.

I think I was/am Wentz's biggest fan. You admit you cooled on him, nonads.

Although, maybe I missed your mock draft, if you ever did one. My searches did pretty good,

but maybe you should try to find your mock draft.

Meanwhile, tiamsies, everybody on the board can search for "mock draft", pick Jan 1 through the end? of May...

and search for you, and re-search for me. and watch the results. Tiamsies got poutsies? Hope all this didn't make you cry.

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You had great big afraidsies? LOL.

BTW, I never claimed that I started Camp Wentz. It wasn't me. Wasn't you, either.

Pretty stupid to brag that you posted it way earlier than I ever did, since I had knee replacement

surgery last Dec. 28. I didn't get online again for .weeks For two weeks, I lived in my camo recliner,

for the most part.

Here is what I did say about Wentz in March:

Posted 20 March 2016 - 11:45 AM

The Tie ? Breaker between Wentz and Goff..why Wentz will be drafted by the Browns

They are both elite qbs. But I watch Wentz being interviewed, he has personality,

and smiles a lot, laughs, makes jokes...

and when you read up on who is he.... he loves the outdoors, he's brilliant in class.

well rounded, fishes/hunts......

and he has a very adorable, pretty girlfriend.

You watch Goff, he seems to not smile much, doesn't joke around much, and any picture

of him seems to be about sports. And he talks about sports. On his free time, he

plays a soccer video game.

Does he get out and do anything else besides the video game and football?

Haven't been able to tell.

Here's what I mean - Wentz is so cool, he attracts people to him.

http://sportsday.dal...b-tries-emulate

On being an outdoorsman:

"I'm big into hunting, getting out and getting away whenever I can. I just enjoy the outdoors. I hunt a little bit of everything, as much as I can in North Dakota. A lot of deer and pheasants. In the winter, coyotes, the whole nine yards."

On the kill he's most proud of:

"I got a pretty big buck a couple years ago, but I just love getting out. Whatever it is I'm doing, even if it's just going out hiking or whatever, I just love getting out and seeing the world."

http://sports.yahoo....WQDBHNlYwNzcg--

He grew up here, playing sports constantly with his older brother. Zach Wentz was always taller, always better, and he routinely beat Carson in everything until the boy became so frustrated that their parents stepped in. Zach still kept winning anyway. (He still holds the Century passing records, and reminds Carson of this on the regular.) "I probably picked on him too much," Zach says, "because I knew I could beat him and I knew it would rile him up."

All of this made the little brother pretty tough-minded, and the boys became closer and even more resilient after their parents divorced. Zach became a star baseball player and Carson chose football. Carson was a fast-twitch thinker, and he wasn't much for standing in the outfield for 30 minutes waiting for another at-bat.

"He's next play, next play, go, go go," Zach says. "He was a little more impatient than I was."

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Zach Wentz still likes to tease his younger brother Carson. (Y Sports)

Carson could handle information quickly, and all of his coaches marveled at this ability even before he grew into his football frame. While his classmates were getting senioritis in 12th grade, Carson was not only trying out for basketball, he was taking calculus even though he didn't need it to graduate. "He challenged himself," says Wingenbach, who taught Wentz in pre-calculus, "and came out of there with an A." Some quarterbacks have the size and skill first, and then develop the intellectual thirst; for Carson, it happened the other way.

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@tiamat63 said:

You should hear what the mirror says.

Ooh! Ooh! Let me guess....

It says:

"Mmmmmm. Yummy."

and I just changed the author of posts... to you....

Tiamat63...

guess how many results I got?

No results found for '"mock draft"'.

here is what I found:

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• Posted 28 Apr 2016

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• Posted 26 Apr 2016

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• Posted 23 Apr 2016

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• Posted 21 Apr 2016

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• Posted 24 Feb 2016

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• Mudfly
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Thank you. I was watching Wentz play most of the year. I talked about him to

Canton Mike most of the college season.

I it isn't that "first person to mention"....

so, you COOLED on Wentz. I never cooled on Wentz.

So, you ran your mouth and painted yourself into a corner. Figures you were "the guy" on Wentz

when you "cooled on him" because Tour talked about Goff instead. It's tough to disagree with guys like

Tour and Flugels...and a lot of guys on the board know football more than I do.

I mostly go by having watched the Browns since i was a kid, and instincts on what makes a solid

pick of a draftee. Needless to say, I have had a lot higher standards for years than the Browns goofoffs did.

I never said I was first. Who knows who was. I said nobody was/is a bigger fan of Wentz than I was.

@tour2ma said:

Honestly, I prefer the mobile version myself.

To clarify, I cooled on Wentz. Tour pointed out that I should pay keen attention to Goff's anticipation for his throws during the pre draft process. Which during that process I noted Jared was ahead of Carson in that regard. I felt Wentz a smart enough and adaptable kid to take to good coaching, nose in a playbook and perhaps his physical gifts could elevate his play to make up for the short comings early on.

Either way, I would have been Happy with Goff, Wentz, or the trade down with us getting any type of impact player so long as that player made a god damn contribution and a difference (in time).

Marcus Mariota looked like the second coming of Christ week 1 of last year. Carson may very well have experienced some growth, but I'm not going to cry over our trade out and passing on him. I do not and never envisioned

him being Andrew Luck 2.0 and that was the last QB I remember seeing within moments and praying we'd fuck up vs Indy for the #1.

So be it if we build the team with young players and trash this year. So be it. As I've said earlier, a proper tanking, no half measures. But do not prop up a QB class if its weak.

Wentz looked decent today, but its game 1 of a long career.

edit: I'd also like to say this is one of the more annoying and childish things I've ever done. But it a) proves Cal wrong ... well, that's about it.

Wentz is no better a QB than Goff. If Carson goes the way of RG3 after his rookie year and Jared takes the Aaron Rodgers route, what then? Placing an assessment on a QB this early is beyond

stupid. I guess that's my point.