<![CDATA[The Battle of The Bastards]]>The Battle of The Bastards

Taken from a Game of Thrones episode. This should be the eponym of any game that is played between the Cincinnati Bengals and the Baltimore Ravens.

These teams are the disjecta smegma of the Cleveland Browns....created out of hubris, resentment, betrayal.

Now, this week, we have the Bengals vs. the Steelers. While this game is not The Battle of the Bastards, it would be more like a battle between Ramsey Bolton and Cersei Lannister (to carry out the GOT analogy). A game between two truly despicable entities.

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@roycerolls said:

Here we go another meaningless argument over semantics courtesy of Gipper: CEO of the Browns board nitpick committee

Objective legal facts. The opposite of semantics.

Oh! You just lost your lawsuit and now you think it was just because of nitpicking semantics but now must pay your opponents millions of dollars in damages. But that money you must pay is just money and meaningless to you. Sucks for you to be wrong.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/636351https://brownsboard.com/post/636351Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:15:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Battle of The Bastards on Sat, 17 Sep 2016 14:57:14 GMT]]>Here we go another meaningless argument over semantics courtesy of Gipper: CEO of the Browns board nitpick committee

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@mjp28 said:

Actually kind of like playing word games this week, spouses of wives could be bastards.

I do notice not a whole lot of extra commentary here on this week's game (from vegasinsider.com )

09/18 1:00 PM

267 Baltimore

268 Cleveland +2' open 43' now +6 42' <---- this line shot way up

CLE-QB-Josh McCown-Probable | CLE-QB-Robert Griffin III-OUT | TV: CBS, DTV: 705 | MOSTLY CLOUDY, 40% CHANCE SHOWER/STORMS. SOUTHWEST WIND 7-12. GAME TEMP 72, RH 84% HEAT INDEX 76

So there you go. .......

Well, this is not really the thread for comment on this week's game. There are certainly a few others for that.

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@the-cysko-kid said:

I also view the Ravens as having been the old browns. I know Gipper fights to the death about the legal status but that is just a lawyer trying to win an argument. The old Browns are the Ravens now and they took the mojo that the 80s browns that I watched as a kid with them. The current Browns are the Browns now, but the organization has never and will never be the same entity that I watched back then.

I hate the Ravens for that and it really bums me out because those two superbowls should belong to us.

I am not trying to win a legal argument. I have WON hands down that legal argument.

The courts agree with me. The NFL agrees with me. The Browns agree with me. The Ravens agree with me. The cities of both Cleveland and Baltimore agree with me as well as the states of Ohio and Maryland agreee with me.

Now...what poker chip do you have on our side?

NONe other than some ephemeral. A feeling you think you have.

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@stinkhole said:

How do you bet on a point of view? Don't think there is a right or wrong here.

It is NOT a point of view.....it is an objective fact from a legal perspective.

Not the current players, but the Ravens organization used to be the Browns.

NO, it didn't that is my point. The Ravens are and always have been a completely separate NFL franchise.

The Cleveland Browns NEVER discontinued operations.

The entire team and FO moved there, and their descendants are the current Ravens.

The only Brown remaining is Ozzie Newsome.

SOME personell moved there. Once upon a time Eric Mangini coached the Jets, then he coached the Browns. He used to work for the Jets. Does that mean that the Browns used to be the Jets? No. Same difference.

Contracts of some players and some other personell were assigned.

We just traded Justin Gilbert to the Steelers, his contract was assigned to them. Does that mean that the Steelers used to be the Browns?

Just because there was somewhat of an en masse assignment of player contracts does not mean that the franchise changed.

I say again, the Cleveland Browns NEVER discontinued operations. The franchise always remained. It had an on field hiatus, and a transfer of ownership, but that's it. No different really than when Haslam bought the Browns from Lerner.

(by the way, I am not sure that Ozzie actually worked for the Browns FO....he certainly was not their GM...would have to check on that)

You say they were spawned. I can't imagine an egg laying analogy, but I'm sure your explanation will be reasonable.

Fertilized, gave birth to. Yes, there is certainly a lineal connection between the two franchises.

But, you are not your father are you. You are a separate person/entity. Same here.

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mjp28, on 15 Sept 2016 - 10:25 PM, said:

Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

@the-gipper said:

Though I guess we would call them bitches rather than Bastards.

Actually kind of like playing word games this week, spouses of wives could be bastards.

I do notice not a whole lot of extra commentary here on this week's game (from vegasinsider.com )

09/18 1:00 PM

267 Baltimore

268 Cleveland +2' open 43' now +6 42' <---- this line shot way up

CLE-QB-Josh McCown-Probable | CLE-QB-Robert Griffin III-OUT | TV: CBS, DTV: 705 | MOSTLY CLOUDY, 40% CHANCE SHOWER/STORMS. SOUTHWEST WIND 7-12. GAME TEMP 72, RH 84% HEAT INDEX 76

So there you go. .......

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/636242https://brownsboard.com/post/636242Sat, 17 Sep 2016 02:17:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Battle of The Bastards on Sat, 17 Sep 2016 01:42:12 GMT]]>I also view the Ravens as having been the old browns. I know Gipper fights to the death about the legal status but that is just a lawyer trying to win an argument. The old Browns are the Ravens now and they took the mojo that the 80s browns that I watched as a kid with them. The current Browns are the Browns now, but the organization has never and will never be the same entity that I watched back then.

I hate the Ravens for that and it really bums me out because those two superbowls should belong to us.

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@the-gipper said:

Would you like to put some money on it. I am cash short right now.

How do you bet on a point of view? Don't think there is a right or wrong here.

Not the current players, but the Ravens organization used to be the Browns. The entire team and FO moved there, and their descendants are the current Ravens.

The only Brown remaining is Ozzie Newsome.

You say they were spawned. I can't imagine an egg laying analogy, but I'm sure your explanation will be reasonable.

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@the-gipper said:

I don't really wish it either...its just smack talk. But it doesn't make me regretful when it happens merely because so many Browns players have had that happen to them. So its just a matter of equity.

That's fair, and I admit I aint getting upset when an opposing star player goes down during a game...I say "oh well" its part of the game. Never will wish it though.

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@the-cysko-kid said:

I hate the steelers but I at least respect them as not having been spawned by the browns.

I guess they are the one other "legitimate" team. Even a "big brother" of sorts, as they formed in 1933, 13 years before the Browns.

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@stinkhole said:

The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

2rrrk08.jpg

I hate the steelers but I at least respect them as not having been spawned by the browns.

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@d-bone said:

Who says denial is just a river in Egypt?

Would you like to put some money on it. I am cash short right now.

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@mjp28 said:

Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

Still what a legacy!

Though I guess we would call them bitches rather than Bastards.

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@the-gipper said:

The Ravens never used to be the Browns. But they were spawned by the Browns.

Who says denial is just a river in Egypt?

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@stinkhole said:

I cant bring myself to wish an opposing player gets hurt and carted off...probably because I have no reason to be bitter I guess.

I don't really wish it either...its just smack talk. But it doesn't make me regretful when it happens merely because so many Browns players have had that happen to them. So its just a matter of equity.

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@stinkhole said:

The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

2rrrk08.jpg

The Ravens never used to be the Browns. But they were spawned by the Browns.

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@the-gipper said:

Not former spouses. Bastards. Both literally and figuratively.

Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

Still what a legacy!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/635980https://brownsboard.com/post/635980Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:25:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Battle of The Bastards on Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:25:06 GMT]]> I cant bring myself to wish an opposing player gets hurt and carted off...probably because I have no reason to be bitter I guess.

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@the-cysko-kid said:

As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

2rrrk08.jpg

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/635974https://brownsboard.com/post/635974Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:03:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Battle of The Bastards on Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:33:58 GMT]]>As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

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@the-gipper said:

You mean the meat wagon? Yes, that is always where my sentiments lie when our AFCN counterparts play each other.

2015-09-27T230322Z_1_MTZEB9RCVXM5O_RTRFI

Go MRI!

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@the-gipper said:

You mean the meat wagon? Yes, that is always where my sentiments lie when our AFCN counterparts play each other.

2015-09-27T230322Z_1_MTZEB9RCVXM5O_RTRFI

Takes a rapist to give a cart girl a black eye..Them not Zoey's

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/635943https://brownsboard.com/post/635943Thu, 15 Sep 2016 22:01:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Battle of The Bastards on Thu, 15 Sep 2016 21:26:47 GMT]]>A Game of Thrones's bastards comparison... well done.

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