Troll, troll, troll your boat.

Feel free to point the ones that are still there out.

There is one, and they've played absolutely no one.

So polls are great except when they don't confirm your trolling of A&M. Then you can just say "well, x could possibly beat you, so we'll move them ahead as well." Ohio State is maybe the 4th best team in the state. Ohio, Miami, Cincinnati could possibly beat them. Merely speculating.

You are chasing your own tail.

I said that A&M may be the 5th best team in that state. A lot of polls, at the time, had at least 3 of those other teams ahead of them....and I merely speculated that Texas could possibly beat them. Hell, that could still be the case.

Here is your solution: Have A&M go play Texas. You guys chickened out on the rivalry. They were your biggest rival for 150 years.. Play them. (I know....at some point you offered and they said no....you're not worth. I am sure they would get over that). Or at least play one of those other former Big 12 quality members, instead of scheduling Rumproast St. or some such.

Football coaches watch less national football than big time fans (read, not you) do. They send off some GA to pencil or in every week. Coaches don't have time to watch full games of anyone but themselves and their opponent that week. The poll is worthless. And again, you love polls so much, but can't find any even remote sort of consensus where Texas was higher than A&M.

Lol, but you're not an A&M hater. Got it.

No, I am not. I want A&M to win...but I am afraid that East Germany will trounce them.

Polling is legitimate for giving fans an idea of teams, but it really means nothing.

No, it just means that those teams will have the best chance of being in the playoff field. I guess, to you, that is nothing.

Hello! McFly! Is anybody home? The teams that win are ranked high in the polls.

You think you know more than the pollsters? You don't know shit from shinola.

You made a bad read of the polls, and now are backtracking with "well I was just reading what the polls said" (even though basically no poll had Texas above A&M).

You think just because your team has risen in the polls means you know oh so much about what was going to happen? You don't know dick from cunt.

To show your dumbassery, IF A&M lost this weekend AND dropped below both Baylor and UH in the polls, in your mind, those would actually be better teams than A&M, lol. That alone shows the fallibility of polling, no matter how much you refuse to recognize it.

My mind has nothing to do with it. The polls are made by media types and or coaches.THEY are the ones who would believe that Houston and Baylor would be actually better teams than A&M.

And here you are, some young snotnose little prick with an Aggie degree who thinks he knows better than the entire College Footballs structure.

Get the fuck over yourself thinking that you know more than anyone else about football. Everyone is a dumbass but you.

I mean, when...unfortunately, A&M gets hammered by East Germany are you gonna claim you know more about college football than Nick Saban and Urban Meyer and all the football coaches of America combined?

So? You think that polling is illegitimate? You think that you knew more about how A&M was going to do than every media member, coach, SID etc. etc. in the country knew?

Well, here is something I think I know: A&M will get hammered to hell by Alabama, embarassingly so....and they will end up behind both Baylor and Houston in the next poll.

I may disagree with you on a lot of things here War, but I would stop wasting your time with him. I feel dumb for thinking our back and forth in the other thread would go anywhere. Cut your losses.

"I can't do anything but look at polls because I don't know dick about college football myself."

Got it. Good discussion.

So if you, by your own admission, don't watch, maybe STFU about it?

No, that would not be productive or entertaining.

I watch Ohio State just about every week. I usually get Michigan games going on and off of my second tv on gamedays. When there is even a remotely big Big 10 game, I am tuned in. I am constantly checking scores and stats on Saturday. You are out of your element talking college football with me.

Don't think so....just because I do have a life outside of watching football does not mean that I don't watch my share of it. I am certainly knowledgeable to keep up with the likes of a DAT like you.

Find me where a majority of pollsters had Texas above A&M in the preseason. They were unranked, just like A&M was. If recent program history was such a big deal to you, there's no way you'd have put them above A&M.

Not sure I claimed that Texas would absolutely be ahead of you.....I said they may be...and that Houston, TCU, and Baylor all also may be. This was like before the season started or after the first game of the year. So, A&M were unrated....ergo I was right to say that the national pollsters did not think that much of them. Operative term: I was right.

Now, I never claimed that they didn't have the opportunity to prove all those other pollsters (and myself being the least of them...I don't have a vote). they have had the opportunity and ran with it.

While you don't have an obligation to be an "Aggie lap licker," you do apparently feel the need to be an Aggie hater, and make really stupid arguments in the process.

I am not really an Aggie hater....though I am somewhat of a stupid person hater. And here was my stupid argument...made prior to the season: That A&M may have been only the 5th best team in their state. I made this statement based on the fact that in the AP Poll, TCU was ranked, Houston was ranked, Baylor was ranked, and A&M and Texas were both unranked.

So....you are saying that it is stupid of me to look at the polls at a particular point in time and go by those rankings? Which is all I did.

Would it not also be stupid of me to look at the polls right now....where A&M is ranked #6. If I was stupid to do so then, why would it not also be stupid now? (and FYI, Baylor is still ranked #9 and Houston #11). A&M simply has been able to prove the pollsters wrong (not me....I didn't have a vote...I went by what they said).

So, I mean, there is some kind of Forrest Gump statement in there somewhere.

Bottom line to you apparently is: it is stupid to consider the polls when thinking about where these teams stand.

I guess in your mind that is also stupid to think that those 5 teams ahead of A&M are better than A&M?...simply because you are an A&M fan?

What I think is that your team has a beautiful opportunity to prove everyone wrong...including me if you are so worried about me.

So let's seem them put up.

Yes, before this season started.....your team definitely was rated about 5th best.....and not by me, by the national pollsters etc. So I just was going by them and by their performance a year ago.

And if by saying "you don't watch"....its true...I don't watch Texas A&M games. I don't live in Texas, I live in Ohio. I watch Ohio State and maybe some of the other big matchups of the week.

Now, perhaps, this week I will watch Texas A&M....as they play Alabama......and I will be hoping they win.

And that is all you are going to get out of me as far as TAMU is concerned. I am not an Aggie lap licker like you....I am not obligated to praise them.

(and besides...don't they have some business to take care of beyond Alabama to determine if they are all that and a bag of chips?

It wasn't "you may be 5th." It was "you're MAYBE 5th" (implication 5th AT BEST).

Then I said "we could also be first. Stop trolling." You denied both. It was typical Gipper trolling. And now you look like an idiot.

That's your problem. You look at numbers. You don't know wtf you're watching when you see an actual football game. And you wanna talk about the last 5 years? Let's look at Texas'.