@mudfly said:

I approve of this message.

...also, who the hell does his hair?

@domcucch1994 said:

Nice job Collins leaving Witten wide open...

Right, he's had a whole three days to practice!

Something.....anything that can help the D.

@mudfly said:

... lets hope the rest of the players dont follow suit...

So-o-o-o-o-o.... you're saying they haven't been free-lancing?

There's also a "don't file a suit" joke in there... hope I chose wisely...

actually....slightly more than a bit troubling....

And it's even worse that his new coach admits it and plans to go with it.....lets hope the rest of the players dont follow suit...

Considering this is a VERY young team, Id hope the few vets we have provide a solid example on professionalism and game prep....and am fairly concerned that this guy is the antithesis of that.....

@gumby73 said:

The trade was for a conditional 3rd we expect we will see, but if it does not materialize then it becomes our first 4th rounder.

Seeing a lot more second guessing around the trade. Most of it centers around why we did not wait until he's an UFA. I guess they are basing that take on our long history of landing desirable UFAs...

@tour2ma said:

Also nice to be the coach & the GM in Belicheck. Giving the Pats the early 3rd rounder works for me only if we sign Collins. but don't we gain back late 3rd rounder's for Mack & or Schwartz?

@tour2ma said:

I don't play pool, but this edition of the Browns is condusive to drinking more. BTW, should you make it to Cleveland for a game, found this nice little wine bar in Brecksville called 750ml.

@hoorta said:

lol... nice twist there...

@jiggins7919 said:

Jamie Collins is expected to play "a lot" this weekend, and may even start. That's pretty amazing considering he's been with us for a couple of days. I'm eager to see him matched up on Jason Whitten.

You ever play a game of pool against a more talented player and notice how you play better and vice versa?

Don't get it twisted, Jamie Collins is a top 5 linebacker in the NFL. He is now on our team.

That Collins can walk in and play "a lot" may speak more to the relative complexity of our D vs the Pats' D.

The last time I recall Bill trading a top five-ish player was Richard Seymour for a first round pick to the Raiders who ended up franchising him and then making him the highest paid defender in the league. Collins may be all you say, but "top 5" players don;t go for end of the 3rd picks.

And mostly I've found myself standing off to the side, drinking more and leaning on my pool cue.

@gftchris said:

So it's the old Trojan Condom theory! :lol:

@clevfan4life said:

Which makes it all the more concerning that bill let him go

True enough. Bill has rarely made mistakes on players he's let go. Look no further than the QBs.

@texasag1969 said:

The old "they hated me in cleveland, so I'll fuck em over any chance I get" theory, possibly.

@clevfan4life said:

It's the old Trojan Horse Theory then?

Bill probably has some walk-on from Topeka Technical College that nobody has heard of, but is completely amazing, stashed on the practice squad. Hahaha.

The trick for our front office is keeping both Pryor and Collins. We can't tag both of them, and I'm not so sure either will be easy to sign. If we're going to start building something, we can't lose high caliber players like this.

@jiggins7919 said:

Don't get it twisted, Jamie Collins is a top 5 linebacker in the NFL. He is now on our team.

Which makes it all the more concerning that bill let him go

The other thing I'm interested to see is if there is a "contagious effect" regarding Collins' presence. You ever play a game of pool against a more talented player and notice how you play better and vice versa? People tend to rise to the level of talent around them, and my hope (no matter how silly) is that our defensive players will get a shot in the arm with Collins along side. Don't get it twisted, Jamie Collins is a top 5 linebacker in the NFL. He is now on our team.

How much a part of their success is this guy or vice versa? I could pay millions of dollars to get Bill Wyman to play on a record but it won't make it the Rolling Stones.

But again, it can't hurt. If in fact the players are at fault and not Ray Horton.

WSS

@orion said:

As I would say- takes one to know one. It's why he's not around anymore- didn't have the discipline to stick to his allocated (unmoderated) thread.

You can do that with linebackers although to a lesser extent because of their responsibility in the run game.