@baconhound said:

How about we get both a LT and a Ronnie Lott.

Isn't it time our draft picking luck turned?

@flyingfooldoug said:

Fair enough...gotta agree....one hand washes the other.....chicken meet egg....etc

@the-gipper said:

Yes but not make them better than Reggie White, Warren Sapp, John Randle, Lawrence Taylor..........

@mudfly said:

Good defenses have to do all 3.....stop the run......stop the pass.....pressure the QB......

We do none of these things well.....It IS a passing league....so, once we learn to stop the run, we better be prepared to stop the pass as well....neither, alone, will do us any good.....

Id add that a fierce pass defense will take you further.....and will GREATLYassist in getting to the QB

@baconhound said:

Well, you still have to cover people. You don't think a Ronnie Lott, Ed Reed, Darrell Green like DB would help this team?

We do none of these things well.....It IS a passing league....so, once we learn to stop the run, we better be prepared to stop the pass as well....neither, alone, will do us any good.....

Id add that a fierce pass defense will take you further.....and will GREATLYassist in getting to the QB

@the-gipper said:

What is this fucking love affair with DBs? If you can't put any pressure on the QB or stop the run what the fuck do good DBs do. Since Haden is the greatest in here and we've had guys who are starters on other teams when they left or got here what have we seen? The Browns defense has sucked for 5 years.

@hoorta said:

Well, if for some reason they don't get Trubisky....that is possible.

@texasag1969 said:

I saw one mock having us take Kayaa in the second.

@baconhound said:

Possibly.....and that may be the appropriate place to do so. With their 4 choices in rounds 1 and 2, they could take a QB, 1-2 OL, 1-2 DBs....and it would not bother me at all.

To me, these are probably more critical positions of need.....even though, yes, we need that pass rusher.

@jiggins7919 said:

I agree. I don't think you can pass him for any QB in thios draft class.

@wargograw said:

Don't worry the Browns will draft a project DE/OLB in the 3rd round.

@jiggins7919 said:

Pretty much my point. We can see the running car that the D needs (pass rusher) , but the fact is we are now looking at the unknown chainsaws for POSSIBLE help with the O. So take the damn car and trade up for the maybe QB. We have the ammunition to do so and can still get a quality C further down. But then again this FO is not trustworthy after the 4 maybe WR's, most of whom we went for too early. Just tell the truth. Weren't most of you just shaking your heads a bit wondering about some of those choices in terms of where they were made in comparison to where they were on the charts? Add the QB to that as well.

@the-gipper said:

That would be optimal but I don't know if that will happen.

@texasag1969 said:

There are some obscure references in there that I don't follow.

@hoorta said:

How about this: The Eagles lose all the rest of their games, and they give us another Top 5 pick. That way we can grab Trubisky #1, then take What is there from Allen, Garrett, Peppers, Marlon Humphrey.

@texasag1969 said:

Not sure if Mitch is a "franchise QB" or not, but I know he at least has all of the requisite physical tools, so he'd be starting from a good base. I don't necessarily LOVE the offense he plays in (appears to be kind of a shotgun based spread attack), but the guy can throw, and he can even run a little. He makes VERY good decisions, and with some grooming, would at least have a CHANCE at being a talented starter. The bigger question for OUR team is...can we justify taking him NUMBER DAMN ONE, and miss out on taking a Garrett or Allen? That's what is so tough. You need a young, talented QB, but there AREN'T any "home runs". So what do you do when you NEED something that isn't THERE?

We shall see.

@hoorta said:

And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

Justin Evans is hard hitter, probably hardest I've ever seen, but not a very sure tackler.

@londonbrown said:

IMO there's no way Collins is going to sign here. We'll get our pick back so it's no big deal and fair play to the FO for trying but it's not going to happen.

They will tag him for sure if he doesn't play ball on signing.