<![CDATA[what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback]]>We done this idiot shit in the first round for twenty years it will work now. WHO the fuck needs people who makes tds

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/44956/what-we-really-need-here-again-is-a-stud-offensive-tackle-or-a-new-cornerbackRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 13:07:04 GMTTue, 22 Nov 2016 22:33:03 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback on Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:06:11 GMT]]>... and a good Offense.... and a good Defense. Lines are a part of both... no doubt about it... but they are not key to the exclusion of the other pieces.

Our dearly departed Ghoulster took it to an extreme, but OLs can and have been built mining the depths of draft. On a shear number of positions basis, five, they are the largest group in any draft. Most fall away as undersized, athletically limited, but there's always a handful of diamonds in the rough even extending into the UDFA pool. Small school players... late bloomers... position moves... etc...

Sometimes you have spend high for them, especially for foundational LTs and Edge kings, but often they can be high value picks. Day 2 is target rich with them.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/660840https://brownsboard.com/post/660840Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:06:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback on Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:15:30 GMT]]>To go back to the op. Every successful Browns team fielded had a pretty damn good O line that played as a in sync unit. Good D line too. Until they start winning at the line of scrimmage, the suck will continue.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/660708https://brownsboard.com/post/660708Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:15:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback on Mon, 05 Dec 2016 16:11:53 GMT]]>Barn is a nice player, but he's not a big enough receiving threat to overlook his blocking deficiencies.

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@baconhound said:

Awesome, Derek Anderson Pro-Bowl caliber QB, too easy Mud

Barnidge remains serviceable, if not Pro Bowl caliber. Which is a lot more than we can say for a lot of Browns players.

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@mudfly said:

Ok....Ill agree to disagree....no biggie....

So....IF you make the Pro Bowl and are, in fact, a Pro Bowl player.....but not considered Pro Bowl caliber?......what makes one Pro Bowl caliber?

I'd say multiple Pro Bowls or a single Pro Bowl and then a consistency where the drop off isn't significant.

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@mudfly said:

Ok....Ill agree to disagree....no biggie....

So....IF you make the Pro Bowl and are, in fact, a Pro Bowl player.....but not considered Pro Bowl caliber?......what makes one Pro Bowl caliber?

Difference between "making" the Pro Bowl and playing in it. 🙂 After 5 QBs bail with phantom injuries.

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@baconhound said:

We will disagree on that one, caliber to me suggests more than a one hit wonder. I'd say by your definition using the term "pro-bowl caliber" is meaningless to evaluate a players talent.

To put things into perspective, Derek Anderson is a Pro Bowl QB.

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So....IF you make the Pro Bowl and are, in fact, a Pro Bowl player.....but not considered Pro Bowl caliber?......what makes one Pro Bowl caliber?

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@mudfly said:

yep....lots of one year wonders.....including Anderson.....but Probowl is Probowl.....

Just confirms that Pro Bowl caliber and HOF caliber are different levels......and adds light to the reason that so many are described as "multiple" or 'perennial" .....

We will disagree on that one, caliber to me suggests more than a one hit wonder. I'd say by your definition using the term "pro-bowl caliber" is meaningless to evaluate a players talent.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/659997https://brownsboard.com/post/659997Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:50:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback on Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:40:52 GMT]]>yep....lots of one year wonders.....including Anderson.....but Probowl is Probowl.....

Just confirms that Pro Bowl caliber and HOF caliber are different levels......and adds light to the reason that so many are described as "multiple" or 'perennial" .....

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@mudfly said:

well....in Gips defense......if you make the Pro-Bowl, then you are Pro-Bowl caliber.....simple....

Awesome, Derek Anderson Pro-Bowl caliber QB, too easy Mud

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@baconhound said:

I know you meant the TE and he's sucked every year but one in a 9 year career. Not even as good as Pro Bowler Jordan Cameron.

Jordan who??

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@mudfly said:

well....in Gips defense......if you make the Pro-Bowl, then you are Pro-Bowl caliber.....simple....

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/658648https://brownsboard.com/post/658648Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:16:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:25:58 GMT]]>well....in Gips defense......if you make the Pro-Bowl, then you are Pro-Bowl caliber.....simple....

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@the-gipper said:

I was referring only to the TE......who made the Pro Bowl just last year. Or did you think I meant all those players? If so, then it is you who is the crazy one.

I know you meant the TE and he's sucked every year but one in a 9 year career. Not even as good as Pro Bowler Jordan Cameron.

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@baconhound said:

This is crazy even for you

I was referring only to the TE......who made the Pro Bowl just last year. Or did you think I meant all those players? If so, then it is you who is the crazy one.

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@orion said:

We have 5 picks in the top 65 (65th being top of the 3rd round - 2 first rounders). There's gotta be some guys available that fit our top needs.

We have gone over this in a couple of threads.

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@the-gipper said:

We actually have some offensive skill players. Our 2 RBs, and a couple of the WRs and our TE is Pro Bowl caliber.

But...the QB situation sucks.....and all of those skill players can do nothing with out blocking. 8 sacks, 33 rushing yards in a game.

Do you really think it is poor skill players that are responsible for that?

And our defensive backfield is a dumpster fire....but, certainly more critical would be if the Browns could get a pass rush....which they can't seem to get.

This is crazy even for you

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@texasag1969 said:

Charlie Strong anyone?

Aggies, is this a Texas revenge of the lyrics to "All my ex's live in Texas" ?

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@orion said:

We have 5 picks in the top 65 (65th being top of the 3rd round - 2 first rounders). There's gotta be some guys available that fit our top needs.

You betcha there are.....!

Now.....which ones are they, is the real question(and debate)?.......

2 firsts and 2 seconds......the pressure is on this FO not to blow it this time......

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@texasag1969 said:

Charlie Strong anyone?

Ummmmm.... no.

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@orion said:

At this point, IMO, first and foremost:

1 - QB

2 - someone to hike it to him and block for him

3 - a couple of big guys that can rush the passer

After that, assorted guys who can tackle, block, catch, run fast and jump high.

@clevfan4life said:

The problem is if u dont take #3 in the firstbround whats the point? Why draft 2nd-4th round pass rushetscagain that arebgonna need time to develop. If we dont take garrett or allen than just go into next season hoping nas and og develop and we get a healthy orchard back.

We have 5 picks in the top 65 (65th being top of the 3rd round - 2 first rounders). There's gotta be some guys available that fit our top needs.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/657739https://brownsboard.com/post/657739Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:17:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to what we really need here again is a stud offensive tackle or a new cornerback on Sun, 27 Nov 2016 00:28:08 GMT]]>All very good suggestions, but the underlying problem I see is that of a coach already looking like a deer in the headlights "needing" a win, any win, at the sacrifice of trying out those new players as suggested here. Charlie Strong anyone?

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@hoorta said:

I'm with ya Mud. Why not give the rooks a decent 5 game audition? Because Hue wants to give Jimmuh the illusion we can win a meaningless game? MHO, we know what we have in McClown. If it's all about talent evaluation, time for Hogan's Heroes.

Right...and I understand we cant play everybody.....but, at this point, I honestly dont care "who" gets to play...lets see em....

The real anomalies, to me, are Payton & Higgins....who both got rave reviews thru camp.....but havent played. Gordon never came back, Coleman broke his hand, Pryor had some nagging injuries and Louis performed unimpressively....yet?.......no Higgins or Payton?.....weird....

Id also like to maybe see Scooby get some ST reps....and the team start searching for competent P & K returners.....try out time...

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