@the-cysko-kid said:

That sounds fucking creepy

The man slept over a recruits house and went to class with him.

He's different

@mld-woody said:

That sounds fucking creepy

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2016/11/28/13763600/ohio-state-michigan-2016-nes-tecmo-super-bowl-video

Ohio State’s 30-27 (2OT) comeback win over Michigan was certainly one of the greatest in recent memory. And one of the greatest football games in recent memory is unquestionably the NES classic, Tecmo Bowl.

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TOUCHDOWN, CURTIS SAMUEL!

@gftchris said:

Yes, they're different. It's like innings in baseball. Each teams gets a chance in each "inning" (overtime period). You get the ball on the opponent's 25 yard line. Whatever you do with your offensive opportunity, the other team gets a chance to match or beat. If they match it, you do another one (and their offense goes first this time). If they beat it, they win.

My high school was playing one of the most storied programs in Texas from San Antonio in round 2 of the playoffs a couple weeks ago. Game went to OT. We got the ball first. Settled for a FG. They got the ball and on their first play had a 22 yard run down to the 3. So it's first and goal at the 3. They've been running on us all night so everyone's thinking surely the game will be over. Just have to cross that line. Very next play, our star LB pops the ball out of the RBs hand. We recover. Game over. We got 3. They got 0.

@mld-woody said:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/osu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2016-17/depth_chart_event/depth_chart.pdf

Lists several freshmen as starter, though I don't know if any are "true freshman" or not. Only the one senior, Elflein...but certainly any number of the juniors could declare for the draft, though, other than McMillan I don't think many of them should do so.

@mld-woody said:

There is no difference to understand. Your sophomores when they are seniors are going to have a greater skill level than your seniors do now?

That is horseshit, bullshit and pigshit.

Maybe some players that you have that are sophomores now may continue to play or will begin to play at a high level.

But, what you seem to imply is that Harbaugh will be a better coach then than he is now.

"These seniors we have now will not be as good as the sophomores will be when they are seniors".

There is no explanation for this other than the fact that you must believe that Harbaugh is doing a half assed job coaching these seniors just because they weren't "his guys".

So, if that what you are saying...Harbaugh is half assing it?

@the-gipper said:

Again, the report I saw was the UM was losing 17 senior starters.

If those seniors are not very good, and can easily be replaced by Harbaugh recruits....then why were'nt they?

You seem to be denigrating the seniors you have playing. Why?

Jesus, how many players did OSU lose in the draft last year? How many high draft picks.

Yes, a number. And I've given you background to that number. You choose to ignore it.

I never said they could easily be replaced by freshman and sophomores. That doesn't mean they're at the skill level our seniors will have going forward. Understand the difference?

OSUs team last year literally has nothing to do with this "discussion"

@the-cysko-kid said:

"Yeah it happens. So be it. The loss has been hanging out there for about three games waiting for someone to reach out and grab it and Penn state did. It is what it is. This is a team full of young guys and they'll get better. If Michigan manages to get in the playoffs I'll still hate them but I'll reluctantly root for them over Alabama."

This is what I commented when OSU lost to Penn state. Note how I didn't complain about refs or the fluky nature of the two blocked kicks and all that. That's reasonable and level headed. Taking away all the other shit blaming the refs, trying to paint them as corrupt and biased isn't level headed or fair. It's excuse making. Speight was mediocre. Michigan's rushing attack failed to materialize and their top ranked defense fell apart where Ohio State's held. That's all there is to it.

Did you have objectively bad calls to bring up?

Was there an open OSU fan ref that was previously not allowed to ref PSU s big games?

I mean, I wouldn't expect t you to make this argument if you don't have anything to support it....

@the-cysko-kid said:

So which senior starters are you willing to call garbage that couldn't beat a couple of kids that were playing high school ball last year?

Sigh

The point isn't that they're garbage. The point is that their skill level as seniors will be lower than what we'll have going forward (and lower than what OSU has now).

Where is OSU starting true freshman?

@mld-woody said:

@mld-woody said:

Again, the report I saw was the UM was losing 17 senior starters.

If those seniors are not very good, and can easily be replaced by Harbaugh recruits....then why were'nt they?

You seem to be denigrating the seniors you have playing. Why?

Jesus, how many players did OSU lose in the draft last year? How many high draft picks.

I'll never really understand why there are such differences like that.

@tiamat63 said:

Can't even begin to compare Hoke to Harbaugh. The latter is a lunatic, but he's a hell of a coach.

I am ok with this assessment lol

This is what I commented when OSU lost to Penn state. Note how I didn't complain about refs or the fluky nature of the two blocked kicks and all that. That's reasonable and level headed. Taking away all the other shit blaming the refs, trying to paint them as corrupt and biased isn't level headed or fair. It's excuse making. Speight was mediocre. Michigan's rushing attack failed to materialize and their top ranked defense fell apart where Ohio State's held. That's all there is to it.

@mld-woody said:

You clearly don't know much about Harbaugh. The man idolizes Bo. He walks the same path to work each day that Bo walks. He does the walk to Bo's grave each year. He dresses like him. He tries to embody him whenever he can. So yes, the fact he lives right where Bo used to does pplay a huge significance.

You said that Harbaugh's kids go to school where Bo's kids went to school. Well, hell my Dad went to school at the same school as Bo....does that mean I am going to get a job coaching at UM.

Another absurdity.

No. Harbaugh's kids go to school where HE used to go to school.

The "connection" in your quote literally makes no sense. If you want to admit you're purposely being absurd (an idiot) again, go for it. But it literally means nothing in the context of this conversation.

I've already explained to you why counting the number of Sr's on our team, and assume we'll be down now because they're leaving, doesn't really make sense, is lazy, and shows a lack of understanding for the situation. I've already told you that Harbaugh will be recruiting right at the same level of OSU. Very soon we'll have the same level of talent and depth.

I tried to do that all in one post but this site was NOT a fan

So which senior starters are you willing to call garbage that couldn't beat a couple of kids that were playing high school ball last year?

@mld-woody said:

Started serious. Stayed as a joke.

Learned that Denard carried that team, and Hoke was in over his head.

But to act liken nothing I say on the topic matters, but you are all impartial, is fucking hilarious. I'm being perfectly damn reasonable and level headed. Again, if I am stating any facts that are incorrect, let me know.

Did you feel line Jose Bautista and his "circumstances" comment was perfectly reasonable and level headed?

You clearly don't know much about Harbaugh. The man idolizes Bo. He walks the same path to work each day that Bo walks. He does the walk to Bo's grave each year. He dresses like him. He tries to embody him whenever he can. So yes, the fact he lives right where Bo used to does pplay a huge significance.

You said that Harbaugh's kids go to school where Bo's kids went to school. Well, hell my Dad went to school at the same school as Bo....does that mean I am going to get a job coaching at UM.

Another absurdity.

No. Harbaugh's kids go to school where HE used to go to school.

The "connection" in your quote literally makes no sense. If you want to admit you're purposely being absurd (an idiot) again, go for it. But it literally means nothing in the context of this conversation.

As for UM's best chance for the next few years: A. You had a senior laden experienced team...yet you got beat by the less experienced team. In the next couple of years it will continue to be OSU that has the more experienced...more talented....team.

I've already explained to you why counting the number of Sr's on our team, and assume we'll be down now because they're leaving, doesn't really make sense, is lazy, and shows a lack of understanding for the situation. I've already told you that Harbaugh will be recruiting right at the same level of OSU. Very soon we'll have the same level of talent and depth.

I tried to do that all in one post but this site was NOT a fan

Rumors like the Indy job could start to float.

RRod came in as an outsider, and people within the program did not like that from the beginning. He was behind the eight ball with some to start. I wanted to keep he another year, because we were progressing as a team each year. We were obviously going to be terrible to start, because of the drastic change in play styles and empty cupboard he was working with. But, he also couldn't recruit defense, get a good defense out there, or hire a good DC. RRod is an offensive genius... but needed help on D.

The Hoke era was more an issue with our AD than Hoke, which we found out near the end. Hoke was in over his head. No one really "turned" on Hoke. They turned on Brandon. Or they had turned a while ago and instead became vocal about it.

Harbaugh is clearly an upgrade over both.

There were rumors about Harbaugh still going to Oakland even after it was being widely reported he was going to Michigan. NFL reporters just couldn't believe someone would leave the NFL for college.

Sure, Harbaugh could leave for the NFL. And Meyer could leave for ND. He isn't going to Indy this offseason....

Based on what? Why would Michigan not be able to match OSU in recruiting?

If the talent level is so much better...then why was Harbaugh starting 17 seniors....guys he didn't recruit...over the younger guys he did recruit. [./quote]

Because there is something to be said for game experience and more time in a college weight room. A team full of Harbaugh recruits, coached up for 4+ years, will be better and have more depth tho. That's the point.

I agree he has coached them much better than the previous guy. I am just not sure your younger guys are any better than the guys you have leaving...pure talent wise.

You are only expecting...hoping that is the case in order to close the gap. You are simply being Dusty Springfield.

I know some on here don't like to admit it, but recruiting rankings do mean something. Even outside of that, we saw how much more these players progressed under Harbaugh than Hoke. It would stand to reason that, all else equal, a player with 4 years of Harbaugh's staff will be better than a player with 2 years in Harbaugh's staff.

Except....you lose 17 starters...from what I understand. Where does that put you in relation to OSU. You had the far more experienced team.....with the less experienced team, you get what you had the last few year: an OSU romp.

We lose our starting HB, but have a pretty deep group there (they all got a lot of time). Both WRs (which hurts). #1 TE, which hurts. 3 OL. 3 DL, which hurts. MLB. 2 Cbs. 2 Ss. K/P. Add Peppers. That's 17. Definitely a sizable group.

What you have to understand though is these guys were all Hoke recruits. They spent 2 or 3 years being coached and developed by that staff, and that staff showed the inability to really develop many positions. A Sr(RS) OL leaving is a MUCH bigger loss if he's spent all 5 years with Harbaugh, than the situation we have now. Our OL was the weakest part of our team. Losing 3 Srs in the group looks much worse on paper than it actually is.

This all plays back to the depth and talent points I was making earlier. Which ties into Meyer being in year 5, and Harbaugh year 2. This is a Sr heavy team, that doesn't mean all of those seniors are very good. Many will be easily replaced by the recruits Harbaugh has brought in and developed.

2015 was a romp. Our DC was interviewing for Maryland that week and didn't show up at all to stop your O

2014 blew open in the 4th

2013 was a 1 pt win when our QB had a broken foot

2012 was a 5 pt win

Just sayin

@the-cysko-kid said:

Started serious. Stayed as a joke.

Learned that Denard carried that team, and Hoke was in over his head.

But to act liken nothing I say on the topic matters, but you are all impartial, is fucking hilarious. I'm being perfectly damn reasonable and level headed. Again, if I am stating any facts that are incorrect, let me know.

@the-cysko-kid said:

True story: woody's Xbox 360 profile used to have a signature that said "Hoke > Meyer". He does not have the ability to be objective on this matter.