@d-bone said:

RESET TAVERN!! IT's GAMEDAY!!! Text a guy name Stan...surley, He'll be the guy chasing 2 trailer park girls, round the outside, round the outside... (or was that Jeremy Hill)

Zombo said:

^^^Hello Hello Hello..Is their anybody out there? Theirs not if you can't here me..Is their anyone at Home? RELAX RELAX RELAX

@bob806 said:

Rush defenses we face weeks 1-5, 16th, 1st, 30th, 25th, 13th. With the exception of Baltimore no one else cracked the top 12.

@tour2ma said:

Zombo put the over\under on R Glass' survival at 3 quarters. "I approve of this message." But you never know- I'm tempted to take the over. And really- how sad is that?

@hoorta said:

There is a way, h... I promise...

@tour2ma said:

Sometimes if I'd turn the page, it'd save me some typing...

We have better OL depth than we've had in years. Its problem has been the depth has been injured and it has had to start.

Our overall weakness is better attributed to the failure of two starters to emerge and/or stay healthy: Cam and Shon. I still have hope for one of them.

I'ts good to have hope Tour, because with Greco out- Griffin won't last a game. Just MHO.

@mudfly said:

3) We have zero depth......(zero)....therefore, we did not "plan on it" (see #1)

We have better OL depth than we've had in years. Its problem has been the depth has been injured and it has had to start.

Our overall weakness is better attributed to the failure of two starters to emerge and/or stay healthy: Cam and Shon. I still have hope for one of them.

@calfoxwc said:

Likely answer is not as often as he should have been given the opportunity to... Seems like most of his big plays ended with him on the ground trying to adjust to poorly thrown balls.

Gabe was buried pretty deep in our depth chart and used primarily as a deep threat. D's tend to notice that and, just as was the case with Benji, shut him down. Also just as with Benji he has had to develop other routes to be effective going deep.

The two quick screens Gabe took to the house yesterday were magical. I can't recall him being targeted by one in his time here, but then he only had one year under young Shanny. This just in: It turns out that kid is a pretty good OC.

@mudfly said:

So.....sorry Tour...said it anyway.....

I'll let it go this time... with this reminder... I was in favor of cutting Hawk loose and keeping the younger Gabe.

Then....they were dismal in 2015 and the thought was Mack & Bito hadnt returned to form or fully recovered....

Then...this year....Bito was back strong, but we lost Mack(again) and Schwartz////

Now.....there are 2 common themes here....make it 3......

1) It's the NFL and players get hurt...."plan on it".....

2) We only have a few good linemen, so it hurts when they go down....

3) We have zero depth......(zero)....therefore, we did not "plan on it" (see #1)

@baconhound said:

Well our running game was fine the first 4 or 5 weeks before he went down. The running game has been horrid since.

Yet.....no ones stepping up and out.....Oh Corey?....hellooo?......you there???

@calfoxwc said:

@calfoxwc said:

Maybe Gabriel wanted to go play for a winner, and nobody would trade him. Maybe whining doesn't fix anything.

Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and

win games for the Browns?

QB Cal, we TWICE had a QB to put the ball on the spot to keep Gabe at full speed(4.4 speed)..May I raise you a Willie Sneed? The deep ball i get, we never had a bucket thrower either..but when i watch the same design plays that our QB's would get Gabe & Benji & Hawk killed on vs. the Saints & Atlanta.. our quality of play set-up & predictability would get us no where but laid out. Never had a Josh Gordon to take some heat off both of them either..Pryor with "A QB"? WOW on Sundays

@calfoxwc said:

He did better as a Brown, than he is doing in Atlanta Cal.....

As a rookie, he had 36 catches for 621 yards and, while we didnt call him a star, we did call him a great find! (not hearing that about anybody now tho)

so...his rookie year was better than all 4 rookies we drafted this year.....and he wasnt even drafted or a starter....he did it in a backup role...

Has nothing to do with "who he's playing with"......

Annd Cal....Im still waiting for that big improvement you promised me since preseason....the gelling....and the "fun to watch".....and all those guaranteed wins....

Still waiting....and until it happens....nothing else matters....

fifth. That helps the passing game too.

1 Buffalo 327 1731 5.3 75 20 157.4 10 2 2

Dallas 363 1730 4.8 60 19 157.3 5 1 3

Carolina 306 1204 3.9 47 14 109.5 3 3 4

New England 319 1274 4.0 44 13 115.8 7 2 5

Atlanta 279 1192 4.3 48 12 108.4 1 0

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingTouchdowns

that's Mud on the Tires.

but as a rookie, I'm sure you knew he was a star.

"He made his NFL debut on September 7, 2014 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, recording one reception and 5 receiving yards."

Big whoopee. I got yer critical thinking right here, you're just critically flinching.

Look who he's playing with, Mudly.

@calfoxwc said:

Compared to the 4 that were just drafted, Cal?......cause his rookie year was more than those 4 will have combined....

and, this preseason he had as many catches as all 4 combined(again)....

So, it's not about whether he's a superstar Cal....it's about whether he deserved to make this team over those that beat him out....(he did)....he earned it on the field.....plain and simple....

But....as we all know.....you will offer zero critical thinking to anything this team...coach or FO does.....it's all perrfect...i get it...

Oh...and Ill add he was a very good KR and PR.....last year we avg'd 25 yrds per kick return....this year? just 17....(and we have the same terrible drop in our punt return avgs...coulda helped there too)

So...yeah....smart move cutting the top producing receiver from camp and one of the only people who could also return....fecking brilliant....(Louis is tearing it up....aint he?....)

Enjoy sure hands Payton(the one who shouldve been cut)....and his 1 catch and zero yards, zero TDs and zero returns....

So.....sorry Tour...said it anyway.....

And its not that Im mad about Gabriel, per se.....he's just "another" example of what I see as a bad move that seems so obvious, yet no one seems to care or worry....... and all just say "we're rebuilding"...blah blah blah.....as if "rebuilding" means anything and everything is ok.....

Well be fine w/o Gabe....just need to point to bad choice after bad choice.....wrong players picked/starting/cut/etc....keeps happening...

attention from you.

if he were here, he still wouldn't be a star. Higgins could have been the same thing to them.

if the Falcons had drafted Higgins, and he did the same thing, it would be "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! the stupid

Browns kept Gabriel, and the Falcons got Higgins !"

Maybe Gabriel wanted to go play for a winner, and nobody would trade him. Maybe whining doesn't fix anything.

Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and

win games for the Browns?

He was our top preseason receiver....and his #'s were equal to all 4 rookies combined.....

And I questioned it and was shot down immediately......toild Higgins and Payton were WAY better...he sucked, etc etc etc...

Look it up.....

Where were y'all when we were debating cut-downs during preseason?