@hoorta said:

@hoorta said:

But not as much as there used to be... no more redline in play... no more "2-line pass" calls... just blue line offsides.

@the-gipper said:

Ha Gip, there's offsides in hockey too. But in regard to soccer- which I've grown to appreciate- you get rid of offsides, you'd just have guys continually parking in front of the goal (same deal in hockey). Doubtless it would increase scoring exponentially- but then you could hardly call it soccer.

To those who say soccer is gay- you have your heads in the sand. All you need to do is look at the TV coverage now, as opposed to 5 years ago. Popularity of the sport is increasing dramatically. Heck 15 years ago, I seriously doubt the US- Mexico qualifier would have even made it to television. It wasn't that long ago even the World Cup (yeah that event that gets the highest TV ratings worldwide) didn't even make it to US television. I said years ago that soccer would take off as the kids who played soccer instead of football in grade school and high school became adults. Now they're coaches - and the US is finally producing players that are legitimate stars on the world stage.

@the-gipper said:

Get rid of offsides....it would open the game up....and you would not have these absurd ties.

Same can't be said for our "football"...

@pumpkin-eater said:

Get rid of offsides....it would open the game up....and you would not have these absurd ties.

@the-gipper said:

I am OK with the occasional tie. If Denver loses a playoff bid because they didn't want to play for the tie, do you think they would regret it?

Too many ties is not good. I mean, look at this: http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings

Some teams have more ties than wins or losses.

This isn't as bad:

http://www.espn.com/nhl/standings

But...I hate fucking gimmicks to break a tie. Shootouts is a useless concept. So is the college OT rules which may be as bad or worse.

But, those 2-3 ties in a season in the NFL, I got no problem with.

Soccer is gay.

@babernakle said:

Fuck that going to the college style and anyone who would even think it.

@bob806 said:

I kinda liked the Tie too.

I liked the older OT system better than the new one, and the college system is the worst.

They keep making it convoluted .. it is not football.

If I recall, and I will check this, the first overtime game was Denver and Pittsburgh ... and it ended in a 35-35 tie.

Zombo

Yes, everything looks good if it works out.... but the coach should be expected to know that punting actually is the best choice, because the chance of success from that ridiculous FG was much lower than the chance of success from punting and playing D.

Similarly... I could call up Kate Upton and ask her out -- but that's not something I'll be doing, because the CHANCE OF a bad outcome far outweighs the CHANCE OF any rewards.

But my 2 cents, they should have punted. Yeah the game was in Denver, where kickers have an edge with the altitude, but even in a dome, 62 yards is a long way. I believe the record is still 63 yards (done twice), so it was a dumb coaching move (that I enjoyed in the end, fuck Kubiak too).

I didn't like it when the NFL ended the tie in 1974. The Browns went 7-5-2 in '73, nothing wrong with it. I think Oakland and San Diego tied all the time when I was a kid. Teams desperately tried to use a 2 minute drill to break ties then, as they do now.

Different sport, but the Philadelphia Flyers went 17-35-24 in 1970.

@babernakle said:

Personally- I hate college OT rules. Much prefer pro OT- with one exception. Both teams get a chance to possess the ball, not first team scores a TD game over.

@bbedward said:

I like that situation because of reason A

But I hate that a tie is even a possible outcome in the NFL - I'd suspect more people will talk about that rather than that they should have played for a tie.

Hmmmm... if the Broncos had just gone for it on 4th and hadn't made it- they probably wouldn't have given up the extra seven yards on a missed FG. & BB ties have always been a part of the NFL. Probably before your time- there wasn't even a pro OT. 4 quarters, game tied = game over.

Even has had them in the World Series... albeit long, long ago... as in even before my time... or my parents for that matter.

@bbedward said:

I like that situation because of reason A

Agree... at this point I'll settle for taking a little schadenfreude away from this season.

@jrb12711 said:

Its not complicated. You just want to gripe. By the way, there have been ties in MLB. I think one occurred this year....iirc.

Each team gets a shot at the ball, no first score wins bullshit. I'm fine with first score wins after each team gets a shot with the ball though (say if both punt). That's literally all you need and just let the mofos play. I simply don't understand why the hell it has to be more complicated than that for no reason.

@bbedward said:

I am OK with the occasional tie. If Denver loses a playoff bid because they didn't want to play for the tie, do you think they would regret it?

Too many ties is not good. I mean, look at this: http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings

Some teams have more ties than wins or losses.

This isn't as bad:

http://www.espn.com/nhl/standings

But...I hate fucking gimmicks to break a tie. Shootouts is a useless concept. So is the college OT rules which may be as bad or worse.

But, those 2-3 ties in a season in the NFL, I got no problem with.

But I hate that a tie is even a possible outcome in the NFL - I'd suspect more people will talk about that rather than that they should have played for a tie.