However, even not focused on him I caught one whiff on a run block... or I should say, attempted run block. But in fairness the DL was a whole yard away.

I went back in for another couple series... OY! Awarded my first ever triple-minus... and, no, you do not have to ask who got it. I think I am up to a dozen still shots now... this pain must be shared.

I now find myself longing for the ignorant bliss of thinking last Sunday, "Cam just played his best game as a Brown," and then chuckling at the thought that it might still be true.

And Crow? As long as he never has to make a decision he's fine, but if there are two choices? Seems like he'll pick the door with the the brick wall behind it every time. I never played the position, but back in the Stone Age I remember coaches telling RBs to cut whichever way my ass was pointing. Maybe someone can let me know if that's changed?

I'm not sure I can take anymore, but meeting friends at a local Microbrewery early tonite. So I may have a good enough bravery- buzz and some time to kill before SNL comes on.

@tour2ma said:

the only thing that hurts on Cam is his ego when he gets turnstiled yet again.... Hey just an observation... When Greco was still healthy, why didn't they bench Cam? Now? I suppose he's still playing because we go a whole lot of nothing behind him.

Zombo said:

I'd take Cam over Brandon Weeden

It says "our starters are hurt."

Zombo said:

@mudfly said:

Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

It's why I'm pimping for Elflin, or another top graded center in the 2017 draft, no later than round two. Higher if necessary. If it's obvious Erving sucks that bad- what that does it say about his backups? CFL material?

@mudfly said:

Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

They didn't draft him.

He's a first rounder and they gave him a shot. I'm OK with that.

I think if that Reiter guy would have not gotten injured he wouldn't have gotten his job back. Even if Bitonio stayed healthy he may have lost his job.

Somebody has to be the worst player, fitting that he is on the worst team. Actually more of a cause, probably.

Z

@mudfly said:

Or....

Tape sessions and Walk-thrus are "his speed", and he really shines...

I am only half-joking..

Zombo said:

Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

@tour2ma said:

Quick OL grading update...

Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....

There's good news and bad news...

• The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
• The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.

Cam's the worst player in the NFL.

Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!

Z

Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....

There's good news and bad news...

• The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
• The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.

More later...

TP just seemed to be another of those in a long line of gifted athletes who never had to work hard to excel... so they never learned how to work hard. When he failed at QB (not horribly, but he failed) to make a career at his gifted position, he had to learn another position. That's a humbling prospect.

Now that he has achieved a decent level of proficiency at this second, "new" position comes an interesting fork in the road. One branch is flat as a pancake, easy peasy nice and easy. The other is another steep climb to greatness.

It will be interesting to see which he chooses.

Then we signed him.....and he seemed to be grown up and a bit humbled.....worked hard in the off-season.....worked hard through TC.....and obviously grew as a player and a WR.....and I gave him big props for doing so and admitted I was impressed with his new level of maturity and team player-ness..... and how he no longer seemed to be a cocky, me first guy....

But now.....thats he's back to being a "good" player, as opposed to being a failed(and humbled) QB.....it would seem some of that "me great" thing is creeping back in......

Browns wide receiver Terrelle Pryor chastises anyone who assumes he argued with Robert Griffin III, agrees with Adam Jones: ‘I was garbage’

By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal sports writer

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-wide-receiver-terrelle-pryor-chastises-anyone-who-assumes-he-argued-with-robert-griffin-iii-agrees-with-adam-jones-i-was-garbage-1.733641

@gumby73 said:

i do what I can...

@vaportrail said:

yep and most of those yards came running right up the middle behind the guy on our line that you hate... so you can take your middle finger and shove it up your ass. I kicked you out because you were annoying from the very beginning by saying that you were (1). rooting against the Browns to win a game (2). hoping the league would fold but yet you still watch every week and finally (3) being a general asshole all game long. And one last thing...take your big middle finger and shove it back up your ass.

@jrb12711 said:

Can someone explain to me how this "feud" even started other than Pacman being the usual piece of shit that he is? Pacman tried to call him out, TP took the high road and today had a bad day because his QB sucked ass. I mean it just comes off extremely stupid to me especially talking shit to a dude on a winless team who hasn't even been talking shit about it.

Pryor poked the "OG" resulting in a 1 reception for 3 yards performance.

@gftchris said:

Not the first time either that a corner has called out pryor.

And won't be the last... not until his route tree is fully developed.

Plus he's a glider... a long-striding WR just as he was a long-striding QB at THE... Nothing wrong with that on a good surface, but issue show up on poorer ones. Our field did not look that bad yesterday, but I did see chunks of turf fly on several occasions so it seemed a little loose.

A poor track is just not going to impact quick, short striders as much... ones that "keep their feet under them"... players like Jones, a DB who can still play.

Don't like his off-field personality? Simple fix... beat him on the field.

For the record in Cinci TP only caught 2 of 4 targets for 18 yds from Kessler/Hogan. Some match ups are simply tougher than others.

@bbedward said:

this is coachie coach's man....i knew baby huey was a jackass...he's a dumbass coach....another one of these coaches that should be an assistant and not a hc....but then again, we are stuck with this shit because no one wants to come here and coach this piece of shit franchise run by a fucking moron...

@medicineman said:

Can someone explain to me how this "feud" even started other than Pacman being the usual piece of shit that he is? Pacman tried to call him out, TP took the high road and today had a bad day because his QB sucked ass. I mean it just comes off extremely stupid to me especially talking shit to a dude on a winless team who hasn't even been talking shit about it.