@gftchris said:

so as far as i can tell farmer did no worse in his drafts than sashi and co. did last year.

@miktoxic said:

Well start with 2015, Danny Shelton looks good, as does Duke. Orchard - maybe? Erving, no. Cooper, no. Campbell, backup. Mayle, Gaines, M. Johnson, Pullard, Ife no longer on the team. Randall Telfer meh.

2014 - Bitonio & Kirksey. We drafted six players that year, Gilbert, Manziel, West and Desir were the others, none are on the team.

2013 - No players from that draft are still with the team

2012 - TRich, Weeden, no. Schwartz, yes. Hughes, no. Benji, yes, mostly. Johnson, Miller, Acho, Winn, Wade, Smelley, no.

how far do you want to go back? The draft with the most maybes is 2015, where we took maybe 12 players? Then 2014, 2013 we took 6 and 5 players and have two to show for it.

@gftchris said:

what years and what two?

funny how some of the picks of other regimes are starting for teams way better than the browns right now.

@alkid3 said:

I see what you did there...

@tour2ma said:

MATH RULES!

True, and to that end we should use Watson to make our picks. Our math right now is based on theory and can be wrong.

@gftchris said:

MATH RULES!

@cdl15 said:

You know I suspect that's exactly what people in prison say about their 2nd "date".

I wonder if Jimmah will hold auditions for court Jester. I could use the $$.

@jrb12711 said:

I think there's two great prospects (Allen and Garrett) that have game changing potential. Unless something drastic changes either of those guys would be a great upgrade.

I'm thinking Elway, Suh, LT, somebody along those lines.

And that's assuming that Sushi and depodesta can find their ass with both hands and remember not to select a designated hitter.

WSS

and the 'i told you so' was to get under the OPs skin.

meanwhile tell me which four players you think will latch on and be solid NFL players? Nassib? Ogbah? Kessler? Coleman?

pretty sad commentary considering other teams pick talent that come in and take over the league with their talent.

@miktoxic said:

33%? guess it's better than 32%

oh, is it too late to say 'i told you so'?

If I knew what you were talking about, I might be more inclined to have a real response.

@wargograw said:

I had us at about 2-14, but I figured both wins would come in the first 6 games. Once we got to 0-8, I figured we'd go winless, maybe 1 victory in the last week or three.

I thought 2-2 start (+/-) then maybe a decent push at the end with the favorable home schedule and week 13 bye....

.....not the worst BROWNS team since WWII. Ouch.

@wargograw said:

have at it.

i know some might say four players......i'm thinking it's more like two.

@miktoxic said:

Want to compare that to past Browns' hit rates?

@flyingfooldoug said:

as was Shashis....

Been singing the same song, different hymnal.

Mine goes:

Dallas Cowboys 1989 1-15

Dallas Cowboys 1992 Lost NFC championship to Lions

Dallas Cowboys 1993 Super Bowl champs

Get the reboot right.

@miktoxic said:

I fucking told ya!

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

33%? guess it's better than 32%

oh, is it too late to say 'i told you so'?

@tour2ma said:

I had us at about 2-14, but I figured both wins would come in the first 6 games. Once we got to 0-8, I figured we'd go winless, maybe 1 victory in the last week or three.