practically a starting NFL team and still won 11 games. They were a year ahead of

schedule this year.

Having said that I agree with most of everything people have said about J T Barrett.

He is a good runner but as a passer he is awful. He holds the ball too long, has a

slooooow release, and is not accurate. A bad combination. I know he will be the

starter next year. He will win enough games but not the big one.

@pumpkin-eater said:

Timmy won a 'ship two years later as well.

@mudfly said:

.851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

Chris Leak was the qb when they embarrassed OSU

@miktoxic said:

no. smarmy comment on not being able to adjust to and read a defense.

Gotcha

@mld-woody said:

Who else would it be?

@browns149 said:

JT Barrett

The fuck he is

@bjh2130 said:

no. smarmy comment on not being able to adjust to and read a defense.

@clevfan4life said:

Who is the bucks qb next year btw?

@mudfly said:

.851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

He's had star QBs. just not NFL type QBs. Well, just Alex Smith. But idk the last OSU QB that had some success in the NFL.

@miktoxic said:

no one is saying meyer isn't a great coach. i'm a huge fan of he and the bucks.

just amazing to me that when the whole nation is watching on the biggest game of the year for you, you trot out j.t. fucking barret. the college and pro game is so far apart now when it comes to the QB position that any team is lucky to draft a true nfl caliber pocket passer.

and even though i'm a bucks fan i'm also a realist. if watson had been starting for the bucks they would have won that game, and i'm no watson. fan. you could put pryor, braxton, cardelle and J.T. in a room and between them couldn't count to 11. and what about your heisman trophy winner. what a flippin joke.

I'm not defending the way JT played at all so don't think that, but he actually is a very intelligent young man if that's what you were getting at with count to 11 thing. Braxton isn't a complete idiot either. The other two I won't comment on their intelligence haha. Now as far as the bucks go they were one year ahead of schedule and it was thanks to that defense. The offensive playcalling has been elementary all year. I wouldn't even draft JT in the seventh round because of "arm talent" or lack there of, but Ed Warriner and Tim Beck do not put their players in a position to be successful.

@flugel said:

Timing is everything Marquis went on a run of spectacular play during that stretch.

@texasag1969 said:

yes, i know, yet when the browns had the chance to sign him in FA everyone here except me balked, bitched and moaned about that proposition. yeah i hate smith and the chiefs so bad that i picked them to represent the AFC in the super bowl this year last february. don't see anyone else here going out on that limb.

who fuckin watches the utah utes anyway? same assholes stuck in utah that's who.

@topdawg31 said:

Interesting. The place Trubisky did choose didn't start him until this year. This is more of a hunch based on hearsay but I think he backed up a QB with a similar skillset/game to that of Barrett at NC.

just amazing to me that when the whole nation is watching on the biggest game of the year for you, you trot out j.t. fucking barret. the college and pro game is so far apart now when it comes to the QB position that any team is lucky to draft a true nfl caliber pocket passer.

and even though i'm a bucks fan i'm also a realist. if watson had been starting for the bucks they would have won that game, and i'm no watson. fan. you could put pryor, braxton, cardelle and J.T. in a room and between them couldn't count to 11. and what about your heisman trophy winner. what a flippin joke.

@miktoxic said:

Alex Smith of K.C. says hello.

"Smith attended the University of Utah and played for the Utah Utes, wearing number 11. He finished fourth in voting for the 2004 Heisman Trophy and was selected as the 2004 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year. Smith posted a 21–1 record as a starter in college, while leading a high-powered spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer."

Zombo said:

I think that is a feather in his cap.

He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

Three championships, three different QBs.

Zombo

I don't see any of Saban's QB's playing well in the pros, and no one is critical of him for not producing NFL QB's

@topdawg31 said:

They'll win in the Big 10; but a smart defensive minded coach like D'Antonio can really expose an indecisive QB like Barrett. He doesn't play well against Michigan State and I don't think it's by accident. Clemson did a lot of the same things to him. When they put numbers at the back end, his indecision and lack of trust in his accuracy allowed him to get sacked when Clemson was only bringing 3 upfront. On a couple of those, if he decided to run when he had an opening it would have been a 4-5 yard gain instead of an 8 yard loss. You can't hesitate against teams that really know your weaknesses with enough talent to expose them.