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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)">Take a look at this list </p>
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Let the debate begin. </p>
<ol><li>
<strong><span style="color:#008000">Tom Brady</span>*</strong> Still in top form at age 38, he has done enough to surpass his boyhood idol Joe Montana and mainly without a superstar wide receiver</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#008000"><strong>Johnny Unitas</strong></span> Dominated a bruising era with 10 Pro Bowl appearances, revolutionizing the position with his versatility and play calling</li>	<li>
<strong>Joe Montana</strong> Showed tremendous poise and decision-making in the West Coast offense, finishing as the season leader in completion percentage five times</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Peyton Manning</strong></span> Owns perhaps the greatest arm in football history and nobody has thrown more touchdown passes or made more Pro Bowl appearances</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#ff0000"><strong>Steve Young</strong> ..Supplemental draft</span>A great scrambling quarterback who led the NFL in passer rating six times, he would be higher on this list if not for sitting behind Montana and his stint in the USFL</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Otto Graham</strong></span> The consummate winner, he never missed a game in his career and was consistently among the best statistical leaders year after year</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>John Elway</strong></span> One of the game’s great leaders, the Broncos legend carried his team on his shoulders with his big arm, exceptional running ability and clutch plays</li>	<li>
<strong>Dan Marino</strong> A cannon arm and quick release helped the Dolphins legend post enormous stats</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#008000"><strong>Bart Starr</strong> </span>Perhaps the most accurate and efficient quarterback of his era, challenging Unitas as the top quarterback of the 1960s</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#0000ff"><strong>Sammy Baugh</strong></span> The most versatile player on this list, and the first truly great quarterback in football history</li>	<li>
<strong>Brett Favre</strong> Few quarterbacks have been as good for as long as Favre, who posted stellar career stats</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#008000"><strong>Roger Staubach..due to military committment</strong></span> The most talented quarterback of the 1970s, the Cowboys legend would be higher on this list if he hadn’t started his career at age 27 because of a Navy commitment</li>	<li>
<strong>Fran Tarkenton</strong> Arguably the all-time greatest running quarterback, the Vikings’ star found a way to keep his team in games with his ingenuity and deep passes</li>	<li>
<strong>Drew Brees</strong>* Though overshadowed by Brady and Peyton, Brees has been a warrior for the Saints in nine Pro Bowl seasons and remains a star</li>	<li>
<strong>Norm Van Brocklin</strong> Went to the Pro Bowl nine times and posted numbers nearly as good as the likes of Unitas, Graham and Starr</li>	<li>
<strong>Dan Fouts</strong> Like Marino, Fouts was a hard-nosed quarterback with a great arm who is overlooked because of a lack of team success</li>	<li>
<strong>Aaron Rodgers</strong>* Owns the highest career passer rating (104.1) and will no doubt quickly climb this list before his career is over</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Bob Griese</strong></span> One of the smartest minds in football helped the Dolphins finish with the highest winning percentage in the 1970s while reaching six Pro Bowls</li>	<li>
<strong>Sonny Jurgensen </strong>Somewhat overlooked because of Unitas and Starr in the 1960s, he deserves recognition for his precise passes, consistency and toughness</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Terry Bradshaw</strong></span> Surrounded by great talent, the three-time Pro Bowler was nevertheless a strong-armed leader of one of the most accomplished teams in NFL history and an underrated scrambler</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Len Dawson </strong></span>Probably the game’s most accurate passer, the Chiefs legend even posted strong numbers very late in his career</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Troy Aikman</strong> </span>Like Bradshaw, Aikman won with great talent around him, but that shouldn’t detract from his excellent accuracy, smart decisions and impressive passing strength</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#008000"><strong>Warren Moon</strong> </span>A master of the run-and-shoot offense, he played in a staggering eight Pro Bowls despite starting his NFL career at age 28</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Bobby Layne</strong></span> Mastered the two-minute drill, willed his team to titles, and all the while put up big numbers</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#0000ff"><strong>Y.A. Tittle</strong></span> The two-time MVP had a hard-luck career when it came to winning championships, but was an undeniable talent in the 1950s and particularly the early 1960s</li>	<li>
<strong>Ken Anderson</strong> Easily among the most underrated players on this list, this huge talent did so much despite being surrounded by so little</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Joe Namath</strong></span> Broadway Joe’s suspect stats don’t tell the story of his big arm, quick release and gutsy play</li>	<li>
<strong>Ben Roethlisberger</strong>* Quality talent has surrounded Big Ben over his career, but he has also proven to be a very accurate passer, a good scrambler and difficult guy to sack</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Sid Luckman</strong></span> Led the league in QB rating three times and helped Chicago win four titles over a span of seven seasons</li>	<li>
<strong>Ken Stabler</strong> In his prime years, the southpaw was crucial to the Raiders’ success and is among the most clutch players on this list</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Donovan McNabb</strong></span> Made the Pro Bowl six times while keeping the Eagles competitive with his consistent play</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Roman Gabriel</strong></span> One of the all-time strongest quarterbacks who sometimes seemed impossible to sack, the Rams star was unfortunately overshadowed by guys like Staubach and Tarkenton</li>	<li>
<strong>Jim Kelly</strong> Like Young, spent the early portion of his career in the USFL, but still went to five Pro Bowls over 11 NFL seasons</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#008000"><strong>Kurt Warner</strong> </span>Began and ended his NFL career with big seasons, and threw a gorgeous spiral with tremendous accuracy</li>	<li>
<strong>Randall Cunningham</strong> Probably had the strongest arm the game has ever seen, and was also a gifted scrambler</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#008000"><strong>George Blanda</strong></span> A former backup to Layne, he played big when it counted, and also at various positions, until he was 48</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#ff0000"><strong>Drew Bledsoe</strong></span> The four-time Pro Bowler was equipped with an excellent arm and a sharp mind</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Philip Rivers</strong>*</span> Overlooked because of a lack of mobility and team success, he still has one of the best arms in football and has posted a QB Rating over 100 in four seasons</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>John Brodie</strong> </span>Consistent, hard-nosed signal caller who was often as accurate as the superstars of his era, and even shined late in his career</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Eli Manning</strong>* </span>Hasn't posted huge numbers compared to his peers, but often steps up when it counted and was consistent</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Steve McNair</strong></span> At his best, he was as good as anyone on this list, throwing bulls-eye passes and running for first downs when his team needed them most</li>	<li>
<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>Michael Vick</strong>*</span> The fastest man on this list and the only one to rush for 1,000 yards, he would be ranked higher had he not been away from the game in his prime years</li>	<li>
<strong>Bob Waterfield</strong> Had a short career that began after World War II, but he consistently had among the best stats in his era</li>	<li>
<strong>Rich Gannon</strong> A do-everything quarterback, he thrived when he had better talent around him, reaching the Pro Bowl four times with the Raiders</li>	<li>
<strong>Tony Romo</strong>* Has enjoyed a better career than most give him credit for, and will move up this list if he can effectively overcome recent injuries</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#0000ff"><strong>John Hadl</strong></span> Posted 33,503 passing yards in 166 starts during the 1960s and 1970s, as a four-time AFL All-Star and a two-time Pro Bowler</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#800080"><strong>Archie Manning</strong> </span>Didn’t have the offensive line or the receivers to prove his worth, but could create plays and had a good arm</li>	<li>
<strong>Boomer Esiason</strong> Didn’t have the spotlight during an era that featured Montana, Marino and others, but he threw 247 touchdowns and went to four Pro Bowls</li>	<li>
<strong>Joe Theismann</strong> Posted some strong seasons for Redskins’ squads that were consistently competitive</li>	<li>
<span style="color:#0000ff"><strong>Phil Simms</strong></span> The two-time Pro Bowler cracks this list behind solid numbers after his 20s</li>
</ol><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">*Active player</p>

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><strong><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">Red:  #1 overall</span></strong></p>
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:#800080"><strong>Purple: Top 5</strong></span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:#0000ff"><strong>Blue: Top 10</strong></span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:#008000"><strong>Green:  over #100 or UDFA</strong></span></p>
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<p>Had to go back and watch Rodgers at Cal to refesh myself.</p>

<p>I have no clue how you're drawing this comparison, Gip.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">I didn't see videos of Rodgers at Cal.   I compare him to what Rodgers does today.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000">I don't see how you can't see it.  Perhaps you just don't want to see it.</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/671406</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/671406</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:12:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:07:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>You're preaching to the choir, h... while simultaneously supporting the point I made that you quoted.</p>


<p>And with that... I'm done talking about Ghoolie as well as reading him...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670774</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670774</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:07:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 19:25:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/670587">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Meh... it has to be "most" tia. The "man" simply can't feel good enough about himself if the truth was most were skeptics.</p>
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<p>I was strongly in the "Never Robert " camp, especially at the asking price. I do remember a few guys (some that are regulars on the other board) were saying he was going to set the league on fire. He did for a year, and then flamed out like Derek Anderson, once defensive coordinators got some tape on him. I hope since Hue sent Horton packing, he's going to realize that earth moving when he worked out Griffin was a garbage truck dumping a load right behind him. He might be OK as a backup, but that's about it, IMHO.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670741</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670741</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hoorta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 19:25:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 06:19:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tiamat63" aria-label="Profile: tiamat63">@<bdi>tiamat63</bdi></a> <a href="/post/670573">said</a>:</p><div><p>You should probably go back and read my camps notes about Robert then.  </p></div></blockquote>

<p>Meh... it has to be "most" tia. The "man" simply can't feel good enough about himself if the truth was most were skeptics.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670587</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670587</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 06:19:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 05:29:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ghoolie" aria-label="Profile: ghoolie">@<bdi>ghoolie</bdi></a> said:</p><div>
<p>How do any of you know if this is a weak QB draft class or not?</p>

<p>I mean, most of you garlic gonad garglers thought RG3 was a GREAT signing for us. Seriously, if you thought that, then what the fuck do you know about who is a good QB in this draft or not?</p>

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<p>You should probably go back and read my camps notes about Robert then.  </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670573</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670573</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tiamat63]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 05:29:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 05:09:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>So much for Ghoolie talking football... and it's not even a full moon.</p>

<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/hoorta" aria-label="Profile: hoorta">@<bdi>hoorta</bdi></a> <a href="/post/670536">said</a>:</p><div><p>Greco at center? Maybe Tour. But it's mighty dangerous to rely on Reiter or Fabulous Fabio after one game auditions for the position. It's why I want either Elflin or Pocic in the second round- if either is there.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Although we cannot depend on Greco returning to form, at a casual glance both "the kids" looked promising to me, h. May change my tune after I grade Fabs and scout your two studlies...</p>

<p>I will say that I watched <em>Elflein </em>in a couple games, not religiously, but with periods of focus and I was not overly impressed. I saw "good" with a couple flaws. Again, however, my tune may change...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670567</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670567</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 05:09:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 02:59:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669914">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>I'm sure you were trolling, but... OL is not only not high on my list of our needs, it's near the bottom.</p>

<p>LT is clearly set.</p>
<p>LG is set if Bito can get and stay healthy.</p>
<p><strong>C is looking up with Reiter and Fabs competing, and only gets better if and when a healthy Greco returns.</strong></p>
<p>RG has Paz and Drango competing, again with Greco lurking.</p>
<p>RT has Shon, Paz and even, yes, Cam in the mix.</p>

<p>That's four interior and four OT in the mix with one swing man... OK, three OTs... and Cam.</p>

<p>Only one left out was Bailey, who did some good work at RG, but stands to be the odd man out.</p>
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<p>Greco at center? Maybe Tour. But it's mighty dangerous to rely on Reiter or Fabulous Fabio after one game auditions for the position. It's why I want either Elflin or Pocic in the second round- if either is there.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670536</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670536</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hoorta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 02:59:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Sat, 07 Jan 2017 02:12:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Had to go back and watch Rodgers at Cal to refesh myself. </p>

<p>I have no clue how you're drawing this comparison, Gip.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670525</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670525</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tiamat63]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 02:12:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 15:36:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ghoolie" aria-label="Profile: ghoolie">@<bdi>ghoolie</bdi></a> said:</p><div><p>He was trolling. Everyone knows my feeling on OL men. Dime-a-dozen. Most SB winners wind up winning with a makeship OL with a lot of starters hurt. The OL is however vitally important. Ours sucks. At the same time, I don't any other team has given more draft and FA attention to the OL, as the Browns have. But that doesn't mean shit. there is adequate talent, there is no leadership.</p></div></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#800000">And we can say also that no team has done what you have wanted and given more draft and FA attention to offensive skill players than the Browns.  And that hasn't meant shit either.   The talent they have gotten at those skill positions has NOT been adequate.</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/670187</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/670187</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 15:36:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 15:34:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ghoolie" aria-label="Profile: ghoolie">@<bdi>ghoolie</bdi></a> said:</p><div>
<p>I always have to laugh my ass off when someone blasts the Steelers by saying shit like.......... "Well, without Ben and Brown, they are pedestrian". What the Fuck does that mean? The Steelers suck dick because if you take their best players away they are not as good? So, what the fuck would the Browns have been without Jim Brown? </p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#800000">Well, that is sort of my point Ghoolie.....that the difference between the teams talent wise is merely a matter of 3-4 quality impact players.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#800000">I mean, yes, that is important, and makes all the difference......but the other point is that the gap between them, talentwise, is not all that great.</span></strong></p>

<p>The Steelers are one of the best teams of 2016. Even in the SB years, the Steelers weren't blowing the Browns out. Division games are always tough. The Steelers played lesser players, the game had little meaning. It was th SB for the Browns, and even with Tom Selleck at QB, when it mattered, the Steelers do what they always do............they fuck the Browns right in the pussy.</p>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Or, as often or not, like this past week....it is the Browns fucking themselves with stupid as shit mistakes and decisions.</strong></span></p>

<p>I am not a huge fan of Tomlin, but I also would not be surprised to see the Steelers in the show, or at least the AFC championship game. I don't care if you hate the fuckers, but for the love of God people, their level of talent, intensity, aggression, discipline and execution is in a different league than the Browns.</p>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Except, that on Sunday...it was not.....except for the discipline and execution part. The Browns matched...no...exceeded... the Steelers in talent, intensity, and aggression....but fucked up in discipline and execution.</strong></span></p>

<p>This conversation is like listening to a guy making fun of the way your wife looks when he is with Whoopie GoldTurd. Get over it already. The Steelers are good team. They have a great culture and rabid fans. How the fuck do you knock down the team that spanks you every fucking year? It is like a Michigan fan shouting that Ohio State sucks.</p>

<p>Well, OK, but if you saw that Ohio State/Michigan game you would have to say that Michigan was just about every bit Ohio State's equal in that game.</p>
<p>And it took fuckups by Michigan to win.</p>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Again, take BR, Brown, Bell....off the Steelers and on the Browns and which team do you think generally wins?</strong></span></p>

<p>Moronic.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Ya, Bradford is no #1 overall in worth, but he can start a season for ya.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Bortles looks like just a guy as well.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>
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<p>Look what the Vikings gave up for him thinking they had a "super bowl team" and what did that get them?   The same thing as the Browns, sitting at home watching the playoffs, except the draft picks they gave up for him.</p>

<p>Bortles isn't even just a guy...he just plain sucks. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669995</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669995</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 23:41:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 23:39:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mark-o" aria-label="Profile: mark-o">@<bdi>mark-o</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669990">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>I'd go with that ranking as well.    Except I'd say Bortles and Bradford are misses. </p>
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<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Ya, Bradford is no #1 overall in worth, but he can start a season for ya.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Bortles looks like just a guy as well.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669993</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669993</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 23:39:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 23:35:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Zombo <a href="/post/669931">said</a>:</p><div>

<div>My post upon which this discussion revolves listed those taken in the Top 5.  Here they are:</div>
<div>2016: QBs taken #1 and #2...Goff/Wentz <strong>Too Early</strong>
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<div>2015: QBs taken #1 and #2...Winston/Mariota<strong> Hitting .</strong>.. <strong>Hitting</strong>
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<div>2014: QB taken #3...Bortles <strong>Missing</strong>
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<div>2013: none taken top 5</div>
<div>2012: QBs taken #1 and #2  Luck/Griffin <strong>Hit/Miss</strong>
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<div>2011: QB taken #1  Newton <strong> Hit</strong>
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<div>2010: QB taken #1 Bradford <strong>Missing</strong>
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<div>2009: QB taken #1 and #5  Stafford/Sanchez <strong>Hit/Miss</strong>
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<div>2008: QB taken #3 Matt Ryan <strong>Hit</strong>
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<div>2007: QB taken #1:  Russell <strong>Miss</strong>
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<p>I'd go with that ranking as well.    Except I'd say Bortles and Bradford are misses. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669990</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669990</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 23:35:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:54:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<div>My post upon which this discussion revolves listed those taken in the Top 5.  Here they are:</div>
<br /><div>2016: QBs taken #1 and #2...Goff/Wentz <strong>Too Early</strong>
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<br /><div>2015: QBs taken #1 and #2...Winston/Mariota<strong> Hitting .</strong>.. <strong>Hitting</strong>
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<br /><div>2014: QB taken #3...Bortles <strong>Missing</strong>
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<br /><div>2013: none taken top 5</div>
<br /><div>2012: QBs taken #1 and #2  Luck/Griffin <strong>Hit/Miss</strong>
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<br /><div>2011: QB taken #1  Newton <strong> Hit</strong>
</div>
<br /><div>2010: QB taken #1 Bradford <strong>Missing</strong>
</div>
<br /><div>2009: QB taken #1 and #5  Stafford/Sanchez <strong>Hit/Miss</strong>
</div>
<br /><div>2008: QB taken #3 Matt Ryan <strong>Hit</strong>
</div>
<br /><div>2007: QB taken #1:  Russell <strong>Miss</strong>
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<br />]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669931</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669931</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:54:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:53:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>If we go back another 10 years and look at the QBs taken in the Top 5 you have this list:</p>

<p>2006 Vince Young #3</p>

<p>2005 Alex Smith #1</p>

<p>2004  Eli Manning #1,  Phillip Rivers #4</p>

<p>2003 Carson Palmer #1</p>

<p>2002 David Carr #1, Joey Harrington #3</p>

<p>2001  Michael Vick #1</p>

<p>2000  none</p>

<p>1999  Tim Couch #1, Donovan McNabb #2, Akili Smith #3</p>

<p>1998 Peyton Manning #1, Ryan Leaf #2</p>


<p>Here, it is definitely hit or miss. Major quality QBs, major busts.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669930</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669930</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:53:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:46:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jrb12711" aria-label="Profile: jrb12711">@<bdi>jrb12711</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669922">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>I'm talking literally taken with the first overall pick in the draft like the guys I've noted. The Sanchize was drafted 5th that year, but did actually go to two AFC championship games..</p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">My post upon which this discussion revolves listed those taken in the Top 5.  Here they are:</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2016: QBs taken #1 and #2...Goff/Wentz</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2015: QBs taken #1 and #2...Winston/Mariota</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2014: QB taken #3...Bortles</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2013: none taken top 5</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2012: QBs taken #1 and #2  Luck/Griffin</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2011: QB taken #1  Newton</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2010: QB taken #1 Bradford</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2009: QB taken #1 and #5  Stafford/Sanchez</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2008: QB taken #3 Matt Ryan</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">2007: QB taken #1:  Russell</span></p>

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40)"><span style="color:#800000">So, give the hits and misses from this bunch</span>.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669926</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669926</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:46:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:44:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669920">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Obviously...</p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">What is your criteria then.   Must they have won a Super Bowl?</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669923</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669923</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:44:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:43:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669918">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Sanchez is not a bust?</p>
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<p>I'm talking literally taken with the first overall pick in the draft like the guys I've noted. The Sanchize was drafted 5th that year, but did actually go to two AFC championship games..</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669922</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669922</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jrb12711]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:43:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:42:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669914">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>I'm sure you were trolling, but... OL is not only not high on my list of our needs, it's near the bottom.</p>

<p>LT is clearly set.</p>
<p>LG is set if Bito can get and stay healthy.</p>
<p>C is looking up with Reiter and Fabs competing, and only gets better if and when a healthy Greco returns.</p>
<p>RG has Paz and Drango competing, again with Greco lurking.</p>
<p>RT has Shon, Paz and even, yes, Cam in the mix.</p>

<p>That's four interior and four OT in the mix with one swing man... OK, three OTs... and Cam.</p>

<p>Only one left out was Bailey, who did some good work at RG, but stands to be the odd man out.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">I still want a RT or OC taken high.   Elflein, Ramczyk perhaps at top/mid 2d round.</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669921</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669921</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:42:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:42:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669916">said</a>:</p><div>
<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40)">2-3-4 here... with Ryan and Luck as my "2", and only because "Matty Ice" finally won me over this year.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong><span>So, you don't think Newton and Stafford are bona fide?</span></strong></span></p>
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<p>Obviously...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669920</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669920</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:42:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:41:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jrb12711" aria-label="Profile: jrb12711">@<bdi>jrb12711</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669912">said</a>:</p><div><p>Honestly, I think the thing to take away from your list is that of the QB's taken with the first overall pick only one was a hardcore bust in Russell. Bradford is "meh" (but far from a bust), but I'd sure as shit take Stafford, Luck, Ryan, Newton. Winston is quickly turning into franchise material and Goff is a we'll see.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Sanchez is not a bust?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669918</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669918</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:41:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:40:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40)">2-3-4 here... with Ryan and Luck as my "2", and only because "Matty Ice" finally won me over this year.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong><span>So, you don't think Newton and Stafford are bona fide?</span></strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669916</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669916</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:40:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:40:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gftchris" aria-label="Profile: gftchris">@<bdi>gftchris</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669698">said</a>:</p><div><p>Absolutely, ghoolie.  We need to invest in O-linemen and make sure that the QB is protected and we can have a solid run game.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>I'm sure you were trolling, but... OL is not only not high on my list of our needs, it's near the bottom.</p>

<p>LT is clearly set.</p>
<p>LG is set if Bito can get and stay healthy.</p>
<p>C is looking up with Reiter and Fabs competing, and only gets better if and when a healthy Greco returns.</p>
<p>RG has Paz and Drango competing, again with Greco lurking.</p>
<p>RT has Shon, Paz and even, yes, Cam in the mix.</p>

<p>That's four interior and four OT in the mix with one swing man... OK, three OTs... and Cam.</p>

<p>Only one left out was Bailey, who did some good work at RG, but stands to be the odd man out.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669914</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669914</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:40:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why we need a QB in Top 5 on Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:37:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/harry-buffalo" aria-label="Profile: harry-buffalo">@<bdi>harry-buffalo</bdi></a> <a href="/post/669636">said</a>:</p><div><p>I wouldn't even count the most recent drafts for hits and missed, too early to tell. Looking through it 2007 - 2014 I have it 4-1-4 with Bortles being the tie.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Honestly, I think the thing to take away from your list is that of the QB's taken with the first overall pick only one was a hardcore bust in Russell. Bradford is "meh" (but far from a bust), but I'd sure as shit take Stafford, Luck, Ryan, Newton. Winston is quickly turning into franchise material and Goff is a we'll see. </p>

<p>Looking at it that way that looks pretty good in our favor if we like a certain guy with the number one pick, but of course that means a whole lot of nothing.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/669912</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/669912</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jrb12711]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:37:35 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>