<![CDATA[Qb Draft Question]]>Of all the highly touted qb's coming into the draft which ones with character issues rose above it all and had amazing careers?

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@the-gipper said:

He would fall down the board for getting laid? I don't think so. But, yes, perhaps having a "party" reputation would hurt nowadays....especially after the Johnny Manziel fiasco.

And Manning?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/670474https://brownsboard.com/post/670474Fri, 06 Jan 2017 22:41:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Qb Draft Question on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 22:40:44 GMT]]>Namath was a party boy, bar fights, hung out with crime family types ... I think that shit was all cool in the 60's. Guys like Jerry Rice and Peyton Manning ruined it for everybody.

Zombo

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@tour2ma said:

And Manning?

Namath just had a party-boy rep. Nothing wrong with that in the legal sense and in his day might even have been considered an asset if it was considered at all. Today? He'd fall down a lot of boards...

He would fall down the board for getting laid? I don't think so. But, yes, perhaps having a "party" reputation would hurt nowadays....especially after the Johnny Manziel fiasco.

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Namath just had a party-boy rep. Nothing wrong with that in the legal sense and in his day might even have been considered an asset if it was considered at all. Today? He'd fall down a lot of boards...

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@tour2ma said:

Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assault-allegations-Jamie-Naughright

Can't find specifics on Collins, but read once that his alcoholism did not start after he graduated from PSU.

OK, now that does seem familiar.

Joe Namath had 300 sexual partners at Alabama

http://larrybrownsports.com/football/joe-namath-300-sexual-partners-alabama/202887

And what's wrong with that? If you believe it. (not sure I do...but it could be possible.).

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@the-gipper said:

@tour2ma said:

Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

I don't remember that, at all.

I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

What were the issues?

Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

Other than liking to fuck chicks, what were Joe's issues? That was not considered a character issue then...and it is not one now....as long as you don't force yourself on one or hit one.

Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assault-allegations-Jamie-Naughright

Can't find specifics on Collins, but read once that his alcoholism did not start after he graduated from PSU.

Joe Namath had 300 sexual partners at Alabama

http://larrybrownsports.com/football/joe-namath-300-sexual-partners-alabama/202887

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@tour2ma said:

Have to remember that P. Manning had a sexual assault/indecent exposure cloud hanging over him coming out of Tennessee. Seems silly now, but it was a thing.

I don't remember that, at all.

I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

What were the issues?

Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

Other than liking to fuck chicks, what were Joe's issues? That was not considered a character issue then...and it is not one now....as long as you don't force yourself on one or hit one.

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I think Kerry Collins had some issues coming out as well... turned into even bigger ones before he found himself late in his career.

Also would mention Nameth. But in his case rather than overcome them, he cultivated them to his great benefit.

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@the-gipper said:

Is there some current QB prospect with character issues that you perceive to likely have an issue in this next draft, just curious?

That's what I'm waiting for Gip. So far nothing really sticks out but as you know...shit happens. Or it just might be the year to grab one!]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/670323https://brownsboard.com/post/670323Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:22:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Qb Draft Question on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:19:45 GMT]]>

@one-post said:

So far. But in only fortifies my comment about a team not going for a qb if he had character issues.

Not too many Marinos out there.

Is there some current QB prospect with character issues that you perceive to likely have an issue in this next draft, just curious?

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@the-gipper said:

Again, I think Marino is the one that most represents what you were looking for.

Fair to say?

So far. But in only fortifies my comment about a team not going for a qb if he had character issues.

Not too many Marinos out there.

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@one-post said:

Of all the highly touted qb's coming into the draft which ones with character issues rose above it all and had amazing careers?

Again, I think Marino is the one that most represents what you were looking for.

Fair to say?

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@gftchris said:

33rd overall, reasonably high.

He was pronounced "Faav--Ray" when they called his name.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/670295https://brownsboard.com/post/670295Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:02:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Qb Draft Question on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:01:18 GMT]]>

@gftchris said:

33rd overall, reasonably high.

Again, I don't remember "character issues" being a reason for Favre to have fallen in the draft. I don't think he was all that highly touted coming out.

Also coming out that year were: Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich and Browning Nagle. The first two were taken ahead of Favre, Nagle one slot behind Favre.

And look at it this way: Marinovich was not seen to have ANY character issues when he came out. Neither did Vick, BR and others.

So, its not like taking a guy with no character issues with a draft pick means that person will always remain unblemished.

Nor does it mean that guys with character issues when drafted will have them continue.

No one thinks the Marino had character issues, do they?

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@texasag1969 said:

"reasonable" = top team overall with a rookie QB. LOL! 😆

Lets hope the Browns get a couple of "reasonable" defensive players. 😁

I would still say "reasonable". Remember RGIII....he got of to a reasonable start as well......but has not been so reasonable since then.

Fair to say?

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Zombo said:

Bret Favre.

Zombo

What were Favre's pre draft "character issues"? I know later he ended up addicted to Vicodin, and then showing his junk on some kind of e-mail photo.

I mean...who hasn't taken a photo of his junk and sent it some some fine lady that you are trying to seduce? 😊

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@one-post said:

I wouldn't classify Winston in the "amazing career" category quite yet as Cam Newton is arguable.

My point being...you can draft with character problems at every position other than qb.

Well, sure....I was just shotgunning names of people I knew had so called issues...just so to help you out with your question. Things are looking pretty good for Winston though.

You would take him here, no?

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@one-post said:

Farve wasn't highly touted. He wasn't drafted high. Not solved.

33rd overall, reasonably high.

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Zombo said:

Bret Favre.

Zombo

Farve wasn't highly touted. He wasn't drafted high. Not solved.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/670279https://brownsboard.com/post/670279Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:39:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Qb Draft Question on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:30:30 GMT]]>

@texasag1969 said:

"reasonable" = top team overall with a rookie QB. LOL! 😆

Lets hope the Browns get a couple of "reasonable" defensive players. 😁

British understatement apparently doesn't translate as well as it could on an american message board.

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@gftchris said:

Dak Prescott? I mean, not really, but people were questioning him about the DUI and he's off to a reasonable start.

"reasonable" = top team overall with a rookie QB. LOL! 😆

Lets hope the Browns get a couple of "reasonable" defensive players. 😁

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/670267https://brownsboard.com/post/670267Fri, 06 Jan 2017 17:09:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Qb Draft Question on Fri, 06 Jan 2017 16:55:45 GMT]]>Dak Prescott? I mean, not really, but people were questioning him about the DUI and he's off to a reasonable start.

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