@tour2ma said:

Yes, he is the link between ape and human.

Zombo said:

Wasn't it Hunter that was touted as the missing link when he signed on?

Zombo said:

As bad as our defense was, it is no surprise. Of course, they must now get better coaches and better players.

And, to my mind, this FO should not get off Scott free: THEY decided to get rid of Gipson, Whitner, Hughes, Robertson etc. etc. etc.

So, it seems that a bit of scapegoating is also going on here.

The Cleveland Browns have announced that the following coaches have been relieved of their duties:

Louie Cioffi (defensive backs)

Johnny Holland (inside linebackers)

Hal Hunter (offensive line)

Cannon Matthews (assistant defensive backs)

Ryan Slowik (outside linebackers)

@londonbrown said:

Well, how about this: Since Williams is being brought in with his primary 4-3 system, this FO may want to accomodate him.

So, perhaps, in fact, instead of a DE or OLB, they may want to go for a top rated DT.

So, sure, fit the scheme to the players at your disposal.....or get the players you want for that system.

So, it is possible that we could see a DT taken in the first two rounds.

@jiggins7919 said:

But....to expound further on that, I understand that most team, when they go to their nickel DB packages, actually almost always do so with a 4 man front.

That is what the "experts" on Mike and Mike said, anyway.

@jiggins7919 said:

+1

@jiggins7919 said:

You realize that almost ALL NFL teams spend less than 25% of their time in their base defenses, right?

@jiggins7919 said:

even without a scheme change we need that.

sucks that farmer's draft of CBs fell through the floor like a ton of bricks.

Zombo said:

Without drafting/signing another guy, I'd think he gets the majority of the snaps if healthy. I could see Shelton being the guy who comes out more often with Meder coming in on passing downs. Honestly not a bad 3 guy rotation.

@gftchris said:

I had Orchard in there.

If Bryant stays and plays DT, imagine he is a rotational guy at best.

Zombo

Zombo said:

1) Bryant would be a DT in a 4-3, as he was in Oakland

2) Orchard was a 4-3 DE in college so throw him in there too.

We have 4 - 3 Defenesive players and we hired a 4 - 3 Defenesive Coach . . . I wonder who messed up and let that happen.

Wonders never cease.

@unsympathetic said:

We'll see if he's back. I see they redid his contract. He's 30 YO coming off a pec injury with one year left, guess we'll see if Williams wants him or not. If we're drafting Garrett, we've go Garrett, Ogbah and Nassib as DEs, so he could be gone.

Zombo

@unsympathetic said:

In a 4-3, Collins is the MLB and nothing else. He's not an OLB, and never will be. When Davis is playing, only bad things will happen. Davis should only get PT in the goalline 5-4 and ST.

Kirksey/Collins as your nickel LB pair, draft the other starter. Orchard isn't it.

Ya, that's fine with Collins in the middle. I just want the best players on the field, and Davis and Orchard are in the mix until you replace them with better players.

Collins and Kirksey are the two dudes that don't come off the field.

Zombo

Zombo said:

In a 4-3, Collins is the MLB and nothing else. He's not an OLB, and never will be. When Davis is playing, only bad things will happen. Davis should only get PT in the goalline 5-4 and ST.

Kirksey/Collins as your nickel LB pair, draft the other starter. Orchard isn't it.

@clevfan4life said:

I think everyone would want the first pick....but doubt they are willing to trade what we should be asking for. And who would you have them taking at #1?