@texasag1969 said:

Fair enough. Maybe he is the one TAMU guy the Browns get.

2016

61 1039 17.0 92 longest 12 TD

@texasag1969 said:

I looked only at CBS who had neither of those guys rated in the top 80

(so, you see....these rankings can be highly variable)

@the-gipper said:

Walter football:

@the-gipper said:

Ohio State could have like 5-6 players taken in the first two rounds......in what is considered a "down" year for them.

(Hooker, Lattimore, Elflein, Conley, McMillan, Samuel)

Alabama will have 6-7.

Clemson probably 5-6. <--- thank you Clemson to shut up the ALA-SEC clan for awhile

Florida probably 4

FSU 3

LSU between 4-7

Miami 2

Michigan 4-5 <--- if I were an m fan I'd be concerned about that, plus others drafted or just gone

Pitt 2

USC 2

Stanford 2

Tennessee 2

Utah 2

Washington 4-5

Western Michigan 2

Wisconsin 2 <--- not exactly a banner year for B1G high draftees

For A&M Garrett is the only prospect that ranks in the top 80

@wargograw said:

Arizona just signed our Boulware.

@texasag1969 said:

but need to make sure he has no Brian Bosworth in his background.

@texasag1969 said:

Ohio State could have like 5-6 players taken in the first two rounds......in what is considered a "down" year for them.

(Hooker, Lattimore, Elflein, Conley, McMillan, Samuel)

Alabama will have 6-7.

Clemson probably 5-6.

Florida probably 4

FSU 3

LSU between 4-7

Miami 2

Michigan 4-5

Pitt 2

USC 2

Stanford 2

Tennessee 2

Utah 2

Washington 4-5

Western Michigan 2

Wisconsin 2

For A&M Garrett is the only prospect that ranks in the top 80

@hoorta said:

Oh, was OSU in the championship game?

@tour2ma said:

He looks and moves like Josh Gordon.....

Id take him.....and I hate WR's.....

@tiamat63 said:

I saw your earlier one.... thanks.

I think the Agreement scorecard now stands at Agree: 3 Disagree: 1... but whose counting.

@tour2ma said:

I answered. Watched the whole game last night. My answer still stands, about half dozen. Those include formations to help make his reads easier. I saw him constantly check the safety to Williams' side, but not know much of what to do with it afterward. By check, I mean, if the safety wasn't rolling immediately over the top, he wouldn't even think twice about seeing if he dropped underneath.

General:

• Davo's game plan as reported by Herbie was executed to perfection. The goal was to run 80 plays; they ran 90+. By game's end BAMA's D was worn down to a nub.
• All the Clemson scheming would have been undone in by one or two more accurate deep throws by BAMA's true frosh QB. A couple deep completions would have sealed the deal. The kid looked poised, but in the end the stage was simply too big for him at this point in his career.

BAMA:

• One of the keys to Clemson's above "war of attrition" was targeting Allen... they wore his ass out with double teams and were willing to sacrifice pressure by other players to do it. By the end, or near to it, Allen was reduced picking sides rather than engage and control blockers. No where was it more obvious than Clemson's gap-closing TD run in the 4th. Yet throughout he played hard and at least early was effective in getting in on plays and/or freeing teammates to make them. He did nothing to diminish his draft value in my eyes.
• Foster answered any questions I had of his suitability to play MLB in the 4-3. Many BAMA alignments put him in that position. His play, his speed, his passing lane awareness all combined to allay any concerns I had. Plus there was the sideline shot of him after Clemson's 3rd TD, IIRC. He was mad and flashed "Singletary" eyes... I smiled.
• Did not see dominance by the "best OL in the draft", Cam Robinson, that I was expecting. I look forward to scouting his tape.

Clemson:

• There's no denying that Watson upped his stock in this game. His reversal of his shaky start was impressive. That said... maybe someone has answered the question I've posted in a couple threads about evidence of him going through read progressions, but I have not seen a reply as yet. *Spoiler Alert* I did not. I saw throws to first options when available, but when not an almost immediate dropping of eyes to the rush, whether real or not, and a shift into scramble mode which occasionally ended in finding an open receiver. Bottom line: a processing question remains.
• Love Boulware's fire, but don't see the speed to make him effective at the next level. I see another Chris Borland-like candidate for early retirement, very early retirement when his style writes checks his body, and head, cant cash.
• Mike Williams is a great WR prospect. He's Mike Evan's with even more grace.
• Most of my Clemson, prospect-scouting interest is in their DL.

@texasag1969 said:

Arizona just signed our Boulware.

@orangenotbrown said:

i think last night just answered the question of whether a college team can beat a pro team.

There was never any question because any sane mind realizes how stupid it sounds before asking.

@texasag1969 said:

The pro talent isn't limited to 'Bama or Clemson ya know. There's a few guys us Ohio State homers have out eyes on. Now about that kid from North Carolina.... if we can't have him, at least give me Shazier as a consolation prize.

@clevfan4life said:

Boulware was reading all his ques as if he had written Bama's playbook. That is one smart guy who arrives quickly and with intensity. I would like him to be a Brown. He can fire up a team!!

And Foster just moved up to the point he may be out of our reach @ #12 now. Trade up dammit.

Edit: Clemson DT Watkins is a keeper. I'd take him early 3rd if he is still there. But then there are a couple safeties we need there too so, hard choices.

@the-gipper said:

The other guys pretty much covered it Gip. Williams is generally considered the best WR in the 2017 draft, should go first round. DL Allen didn't impress me, probably slipped behind Garrett in draft order. I liked Foster, Anderson, and Boulware.

@jrb12711 said:

The only physical limitation is his height. For a MLB'er not so important. Zach Thomas was his height and was one of the best LB'ers. I'd take Boulware in a heartbeat. Dude is low and strong like a bull, gets to the point fast too. Dude was reading bama's plays like they were posted on the screen.

@richiswhere said:

(#62 overall) OLB..He's no sleeper anymore either..Great call

@gumby73 said:

Might want to throw in Ryan Anderson in there.

@the-gipper said:

Ranking from CBS, but I thought Watson(19),Reuben Foster(16) & Mike Williams(17) stole the show. Stock should rise...Allen(1)(may fall behind Garrett),CB Humphery(7)(confused on any picks/switches),OT Robinson(9)(may struggle in pass pro) & (14)LB Tim Williams may slide down a few to make room..A Great Hard Hitting Game..

@atenears said:

Donovan F. Mcnabb is a borderline Hall of Famer, pretty consistent