<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[QB Questions]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Warning, this is long from a guy who does not consider himself a great eye for projecting successful NFL QBs ahead. That said, I've been very good at spotting some overhyped QBs I never saw getting all their God-givens to carry over to the field.  That being the case, can I just ask why there is so much love and adoration for Kizer out there among fans and popular draft sites while the guy everybody needs to refrain from too early on is Watson?</p>

<p>Yes, I see the game is changing at the college level to spread offenses almost exclusively and/or those that do not resemble pro style passing attacks. Back as far as 99, our first 4 choices were:</p>
<p>1) Tim Couch in Hal Mumme's playbook-free offense</p>
<p>2) Donovan McNabb from SU's veer option offense</p>
<p>3) Akili Smith in the Oregon spread</p>
<p>4) Daunte Culpepper from UCF's spread offense</p>

<p>- <em>3 of them started for at least 3 years on teams that went to the playoffs at least once.  They did it.</em></p>

<p>As recently as 2015, the top 2 QBs were FSU's Jameis Winston and Oregon's Marcus Mariota. It was thought by many that Jameis played in an offense more conducive to the NFL style while many theorized Mariota would be the one who would take longer to develop.  If you look at who has had the better TD to INT ratio while their teams improved - it has been Mariota as his team improved from 2 wins to 9 wins. I would also venture to say that he has less to work with at WR than Winston especially since Kendall Wright is rarely ever healthy enough to be the weapon he was thought to be pre-draft.</p>

<p>When I saw the matchup between OSU's Barrett and Clemson's Watson, it was crystal clear which guy had better pre-snap diagnosis leading to better vision for the quick split second decisions necessary for success.  I think the forgotten intangible with Watson is vision, which leads to how decisive he becomes against the speedier and more talented defenses like Ohio State and Bama (ready to stockpile the NFL draft).</p>

<p>When it comes to Watson, people can't wait to say yeah but he has that big, gifted WR that allows him to trust his throws.  You don't say!  If he's not decisive enough to be on time - it isn't going to matter how tall his best WR is en route to an incompletion.  Those smaller NFL windows battling NFL closing speeds with less time to throw - count on vision as early as pre-snap reads up until the throw is launched.  Vision is the difference between being decisive and undecisive. It's not like the big target tool is new when Jameis Winston counted on a tall target like Kelvin Benjamin before Cam Newton had to. And then, TB drafted a huge target like Evans to line up on the other side of another big target like Vincent Jackson. Not for nothing but Gronk seems to be a fave of Brady's when healthy so the big target becomes an efficient tool for all QBs not just Watson here.</p>

<p>The first year I saw Ben Roethlisberger he was in <em>"don't lose it for us asshole"</em> mode fresh off the lips of Pro Bowl Guard Alan Faneca.  Okay, so they ran the ball and used gadget plays in the passing game with Bettis or Ward throwing TD passes while Ben frequently rushed his way out of passing pockets to first downs before the game slowed down to his comfort zone. That sounds absurd typing that for a team that finished 15-1. Having said that, I think Ben's first pass was an INT in Jax after many reports out of training camp and preseason indicated he had trouble getting it all down early (like most rookies changing from college offense to a pro offense).  Later on, I'm guessing at the urgence of the ownership investing in Ben requested Todd Haley's mission to de-programming Ben's habit of from scrambling too often/prematurely to finishing the progressions or get to the check down to live another down. This is an example of the Coach getting his QB out of his comfort zone to reach a higher level of development.  There was a little turbulence at first; because Ben was successful moving the chains with his legs.  IMO, he's become an elite passer since Haley challenged him to tap the elite skill set above and beyond the legs.  It's worked and it'll probably add years to his career as a result of it. </p>

<p>So why all that?  Is it possible that we may be overlooking something very special in Watson for another QB that may not end up very special in the end?  I read about all the goodies Kizer possesses but I don't think his coach saw a Watson type of leadership or talent he could trust so Zaire won the job in 2015 until an ankle injury to Zaire gave Kizer the starting job. Coach Kelly found reasons to play both QBs throughout the time Kizer was there. A bionic arm on a QB without vision means what?  In fairness to Kizer, I haven't seen very much of him.  He's 12-11 as a starter in a place his own coach didn't want to start him in 2015 or keep the other QB from game day reps. The challenge here won't be any easier.  If he's not that special at ND - what makes him the answer to all our prayers?  Does he have any signature wins against programs he wasn't supposed to beat?  What's causing all the love?  I remembered Jamarcus Russell getting a lot of last minute love in a QB draft class that didn't look much different than this one.</p>

<p>Looking back to when Joe Montana wasn't supposed to be considered for an early round because of some less than pedestrian passing stats as well as the old missing arm strength intangible taking a front seat to vision of a special QB.  The right coach with the right system looked at why and how he won thinking we have the Otto Graham pioneered MidWest Coast Offense for an athletic QB like you (and later on guys like Brett Favre, Donovan McNabb, Steve Young, Daunte Culpepper, Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson and even the career best passer ratings of Randall Cunningham &amp; Michael Vick that nobody saw coming).  A lot of passing outside the pocket opportunities for guys people couldn't crib sheet into an exclusive pocket passer only comfort zone.  Even Tom Landry was once reluctant to hand over the reigns from Roger Staubach sharing reps with Craig Morton to giving it all to Roger full time.  But, every once in a while a QB comes along with something that cannot be special unless you let him do his thing. Roger's unique greatness eventually meant Landry ran out of excuses as to why Roger was only a part time starter as the Hall of Fame career got underway.  That was a pretty compelling story of a Football Life about Staubach if anyone watched it.  Bill Belichick was even in the story talking about how Roger always just accomplished the unthinkable under some very duress circumstances most guys could not escape. An old school mentality favoring exclusive pocket passing wasn't any better than war at stopping Roger from stepping into his fate.  Even back then, the college spread/option QB wasn't supposed to emerge into any thing special at the next level as high as the football IQ of Tom Landry. For a guy that wasn't supposed to be very reliable to that version of modern day passing game - he sure helped his team erase a lot of late deficits with his arm.</p>

<p>When a game reaches the last 2 minutes and there is no more margin of error left, do you want a guy out there that can BEAT a defensive opponent as great as Alabama? I heard this was the top rated defense of all time.  In order to do that, didn't he have to beat Ohio State 31-0?  I don't think this is a strong enough QB class for me to see many, if any, guys ahead of him.  That won't be any more popular than Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson were pre-hindsight 20/20.  But, if we're going to draft a QB inevitably - what's the enormous hurry to write this kid off?  If mobile Qbs were going away, would Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Marcus Mariota, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith, Tyrod Taylor, Andy Dalton, Ryan Tannehill have all been starting in 2016?  It's a product of what college football is becoming shaping our supply and demand of QBs in draft classes.  This trickles down to high school meaning there's far less Peyton Mannings or Tom Bradys in training today for the NFL of tomorrow...</p>

<p>Moral of the story, there continues to be guys like Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson getting drafted behind the more hyped QBs reminding me how often vision takes a back seat to bionic arms. There's no such thing as accuracy without it - just ask Kyle Boller, Brandon Weeden or Spergon Wynn-butdoesntwin</p>

<p>If you made it this far, I really appreciate your patience.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/45527/qb-questions</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 02:29:32 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/45527.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 14:36:50 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:51:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/688715">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Nice, bite-sized takes...</p>

<p>One Trubs' detail I had not caught or seen elsewhere:</p>
<p><em>"But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball." </em></p>

<p>Added this little note which supports my little, ingrained habits rant over in Z's Kizer thread.</p>
<p><em>"Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching."</em></p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">Except I have seen no trouble with him "driving the ball".  He has quick accurate release and a very strong arm. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000">I am assuming that when someone doesn't "drive the ball"  it means he has little Oomph on his throws.  That is just not the case here.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000">I mean, unless a "locked front leg" results in something that does not affect A. Accuracy and B. Velocity......what does it affect?  Touch?</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/688735</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/688735</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:51:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/688715">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Nice, bite-sized takes...</p>

<p>One Trubs' detail I had not caught or seen elsewhere:</p>
<p><em>"But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball." </em></p>

<p>Added this little note which supports my little, ingrained habits rant over in Z's Kizer thread.</p>
<p><em>"Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching."</em></p>
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<p>Very interesting.  Muscle memory is very hard to change which lends credence to what you were saying previously about golf swings. I think Aaron Rodgers alluded to how important muscle memory following some of his clutch sideline throws he makes with poise when he was asked how he accomplished it so often. I imagine this is also applicable with bad habits perfected over time, which could be a concern for guys needing to be de-programed from a spread offense to more of a pocket passing offense.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/688724</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/688724</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 17:56:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/londonbrown" aria-label="Profile: londonbrown">@<bdi>londonbrown</bdi></a> <a href="/post/688571">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Some good stuff on the quarterback options here</p>

<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-combine-qb-prospects-20170302-story.html" rel="external nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-combine-qb-prospects-20170302-story.html</a></p>
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<p>Nice, bite-sized takes...</p>

<p>One Trubs' detail I had not caught or seen elsewhere:</p>
<p><em>"But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball." </em></p>

<p>Added this little note which supports my little, ingrained habits rant over in Z's Kizer thread.</p>
<p><em>"Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching."</em></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/688715</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/688715</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 17:56:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:58:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Some good stuff on the quarterback options here </p>

<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-combine-qb-prospects-20170302-story.html" rel="external nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-combine-qb-prospects-20170302-story.html</a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/688571</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/688571</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LondonBrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:58:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 21:55:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tweet...</p>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL" rel="external nofollow"><span><strong>Marc Sessler</strong><span>‏</span><span><span><span>Verified account</span></span></span><span> </span></span><span>@<b>MarcSesslerNFL</b></span></a></p>
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<div><p>Browns will 'likely add a young QB and a veteran,' per <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver" rel="external nofollow">@<b>MikeSilver</b></a>. Says Jackson doesn't believe his favorite QB will be there at No. 12.</p></div>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL/status/837368109061136384" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL/status/837368109061136384</a></p>

<p>I was looking thru Silver's tweets for confimation when I found this:</p>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver" rel="external nofollow"><span><strong>Michael Silver</strong><span>‏</span><span><span><span>Verified account</span></span></span><span> </span></span><span>@<b>MikeSilver</b></span> </a>  <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/836957438750437376" title="7:12 AM - 1 Mar 2017" rel="external nofollow"><span>Mar 1</span></a> </p>
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<div><div><div> </div></div></div>
<p>Michael Silver Retweeted Joe Thomas</p>
<div><p>Stop being so good at your job and my job <img src="https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f620.png" title="Angry face" alt="1f620.png" /></p></div>
<p>Michael Silver added,</p>
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<b>Joe Thomas</b><span><span><span>Verified account</span></span></span><span> </span><span><span>@</span>joethomas73 </span>
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<div>Looks like the Patriots are trying to create leverage for a trade by getting the word out they "are not expected to trade...Garoppolo" <span><span>https://</span><span>twitter.com/adamschefter/s</span><span>tatus/836936509173415936</span><span><span> </span>…</span></span><span><span> </span></span>
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<div><div><div> </div></div></div>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687667</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687667</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 21:55:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 16:56:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>He sucks.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687541</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687541</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Canton Dawg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 16:56:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:26:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/canton-dawg" aria-label="Profile: canton-dawg">@<bdi>canton-dawg</bdi></a> <a href="/post/687440">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>We're going to find out soon if RGIII is part of the 2017 team or not.</p>

<p>He is due a $750,000 roster bonus on March 11th.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">That ain't much in the scheme of things.  I predict that they will give that to him.  Hue likes him....what else is there to say?</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687522</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687522</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:26:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:26:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Let's face it - when the discussion turns to quarterbacks Browns fans have a very short fuse.  We all want so desperately to have that quality quarterback that can go out and win games.  The problem is that we have been hoping for that guy to appear in a Browns uniform for so long that we're not willing to wait for said quarterback to develop.  I think that Kessler can evolve into that quarterback.  He had the highest QB rating of any rookie quarterback last year not named Prescott or Wentz; he had an assortment of poor offensive linemen trying to protect him, and they didn't; and Cory Coleman, a first round talent, was not available as a target due to injury.  Based on all that I think that Kessler did OK.  He wasn't great, but he shouldn't have been.  He was learning the system on the fly, and based on his performance as a first year player I say he showed a lot of promise.</p>

<p>This draft, moreso than any other in recent memory, has no guaranteed starting-caliber quarterbacks.  That's not me saying it, it's the myriad of national so-called "experts" that have made that claim.  Why use a first round pick on a quarterback that arguably is not any better than what is currently have on the roster?  That would be insanity, which is something I'm happy to see the current front office is avoiding.  </p>

<p>Roll with Kessler, get him some protection (Zeitler), welcome Gordon back into the fold, sign Pryor, and take advantage of a stacked defensive draft by selecting defensive players with five of the Browns first six picks (draft OJ Howard at 12)...and the Browns will have the tools to begin their evolution into a winning franchise.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687450</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687450</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Suomi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:26:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 01:47:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/orion" aria-label="Profile: orion">@<bdi>orion</bdi></a> <a href="/post/675175">said</a>:</p>

<p>(do we know for sure that Kessler isn't the Joe Montana?)</p>
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<p>^^^ Exactly.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687446</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687446</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Suomi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 01:47:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 00:55:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're going to find out soon if RGIII is part of the 2017 team or not.</p>

<p>He is due a $750,000 roster bonus on March 11th.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687440</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687440</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Canton Dawg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 00:55:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:51:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Film grades are in from @Allbrightnfl and safe to say he doesn't particularly like any of them </p>

<p><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-SienfT3umX0HKxRyQqyXM9BqHrotdcQA6W-V_pDiY/edit#gid=156597622" rel="external nofollow">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-SienfT3umX0HKxRyQqyXM9BqHrotdcQA6W-V_pDiY/edit#gid=156597622</a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/687371</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/687371</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LondonBrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:51:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:26:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Mud:</p>

<p>I agree Kessler can't throw.. but he makes up for it by both not being able to run and not having any NFL-level pocket awareness!</p>

<p>Other than that, keep the faith.</p>

<p>You know the old expression.. when you keep doing the same thing that you've been doing, you're sure to win big in 2017!</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/685046</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/685046</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Unsympathetic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:26:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:33:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683461">said</a>:</p><div><p><span style="color:#800000">While the numbers looked decent....is there ever  a time last year that you thought that Kessler was ever capable of winning a game?</span></p></div></blockquote>
<p>Certainly not on his own......any QB in the NFL is capable of winning a game(how many have multiple starts, but <em>haven't won?).....hmmmm</em></p>

<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683484">said</a>:</p><div><p>Question is how much load can Kess carry? So far not much is what I see.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>I cant see it either.....</p>


<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683485">said</a>:</p><div>
<p><strong><span style="color:#800000">Who would you all want out of this group....?</span></strong></p>

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<p>Zero</p>


<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gumby73" aria-label="Profile: gumby73">@<bdi>gumby73</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683597">said</a>:</p><div><p>call me a homer,</p></div></blockquote>
<p>you're a homer...</p>


<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jiggins7919" aria-label="Profile: jiggins7919">@<bdi>jiggins7919</bdi></a> <a href="/post/684048">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>I was pleasantly surprised by some of what Kessler was able to do on the field. ...... he wasn't getting the ball out at all.................something I don't think can be fixed, is that he just can't get out of pressure..............and he looked so slow to me.........He can't get out of danger, and he can't hurt anybody with his legs................... I saw the biggest running lanes in the universe that he NEVER exploited...................he can't avoid sacks and power through arm tackles.</p>

<p>.... did the best he could............  I don't care about the arm strength...... Browns OBVIOUSLY can't bank on this, and must address the position either through the draft, free agency, or BOTH.  </p>
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<p>Dude....your post basically says I like what I see, then lists a ton of shit....then states we must get someone better.....</p>

<p>Ugh....</p>

<p>He has no pocket awareness.....a limp arm....doesnt see the field well.....doesnt hit the deep ball.....and cant get yards with his feet...</p>

<p>Why do people think he can lead this team????</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/684335</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/684335</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:33:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:06:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jiggins7919" aria-label="Profile: jiggins7919">@<bdi>jiggins7919</bdi></a> <a href="/post/684048">said</a>:</p><div><p>I was pleasantly surprised by some of what Kessler was able to do on the field.  I did not, however, like his last start, and I thought all the talk about "Cody needs to force the ball down the field" really screwed him up.  He didn't look a thing like he did earlier in the year, and he wasn't getting the ball out at all.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Again... I think you mischaracterize "the talk". It was never about "forcing" anything anywhere. It was about seeing and taking downfield opportunities that were there. Opportunities that he either could not see or for which he did not look.</p>

<p>In either case he was ignoring shots. And when you do that you are going to be quicker to your dump offs that pad stats, but don't put points on the board.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/684087</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/684087</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:06:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:58:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Here's a pretty good video of Andrew Gribble and Nathan Zegura breaking down some of the top QB prospects.  It's long, but I enjoyed it.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Gribble--Zegura-review-national-mock-drafts/a3664e78-83c1-440a-8742-507b2969c7e9" rel="external nofollow">http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Gribble--Zegura-review-national-mock-drafts/a3664e78-83c1-440a-8742-507b2969c7e9</a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/684056</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/684056</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jiggins7919]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:58:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:42:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I was pleasantly surprised by some of what Kessler was able to do on the field.  I did not, however, like his last start, and I thought all the talk about "Cody needs to force the ball down the field" really screwed him up.  He didn't look a thing like he did earlier in the year, and he wasn't getting the ball out at all.  My biggest problem with Cody, and something I don't think can be fixed, is that he just can't get out of pressure.  Some of the sacks he took looked like a stronger man could've shaken off, and he looked so slow to me.  He can't get out of danger, and he can't hurt anybody with his legs.  I know we want our QB's to THROW the ball, but when I went back and watched some of Cody's games, I saw the biggest running lanes in the universe that he NEVER exploited.  I'm talking about lanes where Cody could've run for 10+ yards and slid without getting touched.  This is important because it makes the defense adjust, and it will actually help a QB throwing the ball.  If they have to respect a QB picking up 1st downs or nice yards with his legs, there will certainly be adjustments made that could affect defensive coverage.  I realize I previously said how slow he is, but some of these lanes were GIANT, and it's not like Cody is completely immobile like Rivers, it's just he can't avoid sacks and power through arm tackles.</p>

<p>Maybe I'm wrong?  Perhaps Cody was thrust into an impossible situation and did the best he could with limited reps and practice time.  Maybe a year under his belt and some time with NFL strength coaches will significantly benefit him.  NFL players get better all of the time, so why not Cody?  I don't care about the arm strength.  I think he throws the ball just fine.  I'll say this about Cody, if he DOES get better, we'll know pretty quickly.  If he comes into camp and looks solid, and then continues that play into preseason...then maybe he can be our guy.  Of course, this is the optimistic side of the coin, and the Browns OBVIOUSLY can't bank on this, and must address the position either through the draft, free agency, or BOTH.  </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/684048</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/684048</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jiggins7919]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:42:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Fri, 17 Feb 2017 03:20:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/684008</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/684008</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SD_Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2017 03:20:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Fri, 17 Feb 2017 03:19:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/roycerolls" aria-label="Profile: roycerolls">@<bdi>roycerolls</bdi></a> <a href="/post/681937">said</a>:</p><p>Mitch looks like a Pizza Hut shift manager with an awesome sound system in his Buick Roadmaster.</p></blockquote>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/684007</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/684007</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SD_Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2017 03:19:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683607">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Glennon was discussed just yesterday on NFL Insiders as a potential fit with the Jets. It was the first I'd thought about him in a good while.</p>

<p>I'm more or less "meh" on the guy. While he's put some good stuff on tape, I never seen him as starter material. In part it's likely his gangly, Ichabod Crane look. It doesn't whisper "leader", let alone scream it.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#800000">Can he be worse that Brock Osweiler?</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/683612</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/683612</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:53:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:47:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gumby73" aria-label="Profile: gumby73">@<bdi>gumby73</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683597">said</a>:</p><div><p>call me a homer, but whats your thoughts on the Mike Glennon you remember? as a taller game manager, when he played, he reminded me of a Hoyer with a 1 weapon WR. Neither are a Alex Smith arm, but a game manager that were closer to a RG3 2 yr. lookzie deal with a opt out? will Oz Glennon get a 5 yr. deal?</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Glennon was discussed just yesterday on NFL Insiders as a potential fit with the Jets. It was the first I'd thought about him in a good while.</p>

<p>I'm more or less "meh" on the guy. While he's put some good stuff on tape, I never seen him as starter material. In part it's likely his gangly, Ichabod Crane look. It doesn't whisper "leader", let alone scream it.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/683607</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/683607</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:47:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:28:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683506">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>I hear you, but to be clear I am not arguing that we cannot build around a "game manager" type QB. I can't since I argued that we could build around Hoyer, who until his melt down looked that part. What I am arguing is that Kess is not even to the Hoyer level as yet.</p>

<p>The difference is processing speed. At his best Brian took the shots that Kess was benched for bypassing.</p>

<p>Might Kess further develop? Sure... it's not fair to compare the then 5th-year vet that Brian was when he flashed in his injury-shortened emergence with a 3rd-string rookie pressed into action. But then that's the only comparison available at this time.</p>
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<p>call me a homer, but whats your thoughts on the Mike Glennon you remember? as a taller game manager, when he played, he reminded me of a Hoyer with a 1 weapon WR. Neither are a Alex Smith arm, but a game manager that were closer to a RG3 2 yr. lookzie deal with a opt out? will Oz Glennon get a 5 yr. deal?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/683597</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/683597</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gumby73]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:28:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:46:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683461">said</a>:</p><p><span style="color:#800000">While the numbers looked decent....is there ever  a time last year that you thought that Kessler was ever capable of winning a game?</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/683581</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/683581</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wargograw]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:46:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:55:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Here's QB-ish question...</p>

<p>What was he doing at the White House?</p>

<p><a href="https://uploads.brownsboard.com/ips/monthly_02_2017/post-2853-0-19877700-1487184881.jpg" data-fileid="1892"><img src="https://uploads.brownsboard.com/ips/monthly_02_2017/post-2853-0-19877700-1487184881_thumb.jpg" data-fileid="1892" alt="post-2853-0-19877700-1487184881_thumb.jpg" /></a> <a href="https://uploads.brownsboard.com/ips/monthly_02_2017/post-2853-0-00483000-1487184893.jpg" data-fileid="1893"><img src="https://uploads.brownsboard.com/ips/monthly_02_2017/post-2853-0-00483000-1487184893_thumb.jpg" data-fileid="1893" alt="post-2853-0-00483000-1487184893_thumb.jpg" /></a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/683553</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/683553</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:55:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to QB Questions on Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:53:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gftchris" aria-label="Profile: gftchris">@<bdi>gftchris</bdi></a> <a href="/post/683499">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Perhaps, but our other playmakers have shown the ability to actually make plays from time to time.  Behind a solid OL, crow can make big plays.  Duke can make guys miss in the open field. Pryor can win contested catches.  Coleman can get open with his quickness and make guys miss after the catch (assuming he catches it).</p>

<p>I don't think we need a QB who can win the game on his own (though I wouldn't say no), we just need to get the guys we have to play to their potential.</p>
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<p>I hear you, but to be clear I am not arguing that we cannot build around a "game manager" type QB. I can't since I argued that we could build around Hoyer, who until his melt down looked that part. What I am arguing is that Kess is not even to the Hoyer level as yet.</p>

<p>The difference is processing speed. At his best Brian took the shots that Kess was benched for bypassing.</p>

<p>Might Kess further develop? Sure... it's not fair to compare the then 5th-year vet that Brian was when he flashed in his injury-shortened emergence with a 3rd-string rookie pressed into action. But then that's the only comparison available at this time.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/683506</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/683506</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:53:37 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>