<![CDATA[Taking a step by step look at the Browns draft]]>Maybe we should back up a bit, and look at it by steps.

Step one, I suppose, would be to establish a draft philosophy for the

first round, if not also the second.

I would say, that we should draft the most dramatic impact players for our Browns in

the first round. Meaning, identify those first round players that have the skills, and fit

all our comprehensive criteria for selecting players, who can come in and make

an immediate, giant impact on the success of our Browns.

Given the major weaknesses of the Browns, we can ignore the players who don't fit

our needs to a point. This is the tentative list maybe:

Myles Garrett - DE, Texas A&M
Jamal Adams - S, LSU
Malik Hooker - S, Ohio State
Solomon Thomas - DE, Stanford
Reuben Foster - ILB, Alabama
Marshon Lattimore - CB, Ohio State
Sidney Jones - CB, Washington
David Njoku - TE, Miami
Gerbil Peppers - S, Michigan
T.J. Watt - OLB, Wisconsin
Takkarist McKinley - OLB, UCLA
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@typicalbrowns said:

Trubisky is the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now

Good adaptation.

Not that I agree with it, but very good.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

When he gave me eyes for seeing and a brain for understanding.

Again, just an opinion from a fan. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/677888https://brownsboard.com/post/677888Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:03:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Taking a step by step look at the Browns draft on Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:29:19 GMT]]>maybe hell will freeze over and Trubisky will fall to the second round. 🙂

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@ballpeen said:

And if that is the case, they won't be touchig a QB in round 1. I don't think they are on 1 year deals, but they need to get something changed in a hurry. A rookie QB sitting the bench isn't going to make that impact.

Not to mention a rookie starting QB in an OJT program...

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@ballpeen said:

And if that is the case, they won't be touchig a QB in round 1. I don't think they are on 1 year deals, but they need to get something changed in a hurry. A rookie QB sitting the bench isn't going to make that impact.

I agree totally with that logic. If this crew wants to remain then they have to go for defense first to get in position weekly to pull off wins and bring the fans back. Every QB in this draft requires too long to produce anything of immediate help. Bringing in 3 elite to great D players puts us in the running for a breakeven season.

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@hoorta said:

But did you ever consider- Hue and the FO might also be on a "one year" contract? Another sub 4 win season, and they might all be heading for the door.

And if that is the case, they won't be touchig a QB in round 1. I don't think they are on 1 year deals, but they need to get something changed in a hurry. A rookie QB sitting the bench isn't going to make that impact.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/677498https://brownsboard.com/post/677498Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:46:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Taking a step by step look at the Browns draft on Sat, 28 Jan 2017 19:46:33 GMT]]>At this rate I'm going to need to buy more popcorn...

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@the-gipper said:

And when did the Gods bestow prescience on you? Surely you could put that skill to better use. I mean, there are lotteries to win, terrorists to foil, stock to purchase.

When he gave me eyes for seeing and a brain for understanding.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

None of them are the one, or else they'd be taken at #1.

And when did the Gods bestow prescience on you? Surely you could put that skill to better use. I mean, there are lotteries to win, terrorists to foil, stock to purchase.

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@the-gipper said:

"One of" the QBs lasting til 12 is not sufficient. It has to be the right "one".

None of them are the one, or else they'd be taken at #1.

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@unsympathetic said:

To be fair, I'll bet that one of the QB's falls to 12. The teams from 1-11 have some pretty big weaknesses on D for which the D game-changer is more of a plus for that position than the QB.

"One of" the QBs lasting til 12 is not sufficient. It has to be the right "one".

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@tour2ma said:

Saw the reported tweet as well...

On a list of Trub concerns his height is the least of mine.

What would yours be? Outside of inexperience, which isn't *necessarily* a disqualifying factor.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Trubisky is going measure in closer to 6'1" at the combine.

Saw the reported tweet as well...

On a list of Trub concerns his height is the least of mine.

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@tour2ma said:

You have sharp eyes for an old fart... but a crap sense of "equal time". I showcased one play; you post a 13.5 minute video. 😛

Ha if Garrett can't make it in the NFL, the NBA awaits- but can he shoot?

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Trubisky is going measure in closer to 6'1" at the combine.

We'll see. Of course a lot of those college height\weight stats get inflated- but not always.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/676908https://brownsboard.com/post/676908Fri, 27 Jan 2017 05:20:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Taking a step by step look at the Browns draft on Fri, 27 Jan 2017 04:38:38 GMT]]>Trubisky is going measure in closer to 6'1" at the combine.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/676906https://brownsboard.com/post/676906Fri, 27 Jan 2017 04:38:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Taking a step by step look at the Browns draft on Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:34:58 GMT]]>To be fair, I'll bet that one of the QB's falls to 12. The teams from 1-11 have some pretty big weaknesses on D for which the D game-changer is more of a plus for that position than the QB.

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@tour2ma said:

You have sharp eyes for an old fart... but a crap sense of "equal time". I showcased one play; you post a 13.5 minute video. 😛

I watched that one as well... as I did Kizer's and Allen's and...

On the whole I like Voch's analyses, the points he makes ring true for the most part. Even for QBs, a position he states is not really in his analytical wheelhouse. (He's a "trenches" guy.) But what becomes abundantly clear after watching a few of his vids is that his sample size is very small.

He pulls a couple snippets from a couple cut-downs and talks over them as if he's not seen them before. Entertaining as hell... but not conclusively persuasive. He seems to be going for a volume of players covered rather than depth of coverage.

And to be totally fair Tour- those plays were pulled from his big wins- when he was "on". I've seen enough, MHO Trubisky is way ahead of any of the other qb prospects. We may well take Garrett- and I'm (reluctantly) OK with that. It's going to be an either\or. We get Myles or Mitch- not going to be both. The odds of Mitch lasting to #12 are about the same as Garrett falling that far.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/676866https://brownsboard.com/post/676866Fri, 27 Jan 2017 01:01:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Taking a step by step look at the Browns draft on Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:15:30 GMT]]>I actually thought that for as long as his video was, he did not illustrate enough plays. He liked talking about the same play over and over.

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@hoorta said:

OK I demand equal time. 🙂 Why me and Gip see Franchise QB.

You have sharp eyes for an old fart... but a crap sense of "equal time". I showcased one play; you post a 13.5 minute video. 😛

I watched that one as well... as I did Kizer's and Allen's and...

On the whole I like Voch's analyses, the points he makes ring true for the most part. Even for QBs, a position he states is not really in his analytical wheelhouse. (He's a "trenches" guy.) But what becomes abundantly clear after watching a few of his vids is that his sample size is very small.

He pulls a couple snippets from a couple cut-downs and talks over them as if he's not seen them before. Entertaining as hell... but not conclusively persuasive. He seems to be going for a volume of players covered rather than depth of coverage.

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@the-gipper said:

The most important observation made here, and demonstrated is the way he does in fact go through his progressions to find an open receiver. Some have claimed he does not do that, that he focuses just on his initial target. But this clearly contradicts that belief. On some of these highlights he had extremely fast reads to find the 2d/3rd target.

(this announcer though is pretty lame)

Um very accurate, mobile, good pocket awareness, and noted he can toss the ball 50 yards in the air off his back foot under pressure.

We want Mitch! We want Mitch! We want Mitch!

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@hoorta said:

OK I demand equal time. 🙂 Why me and Gip see Franchise QB.

The most important observation made here, and demonstrated is the way he does in fact go through his progressions to find an open receiver. Some have claimed he does not do that, that he focuses just on his initial target. But this clearly contradicts that belief. On some of these highlights he had extremely fast reads to find the 2d/3rd target.

(this announcer though is pretty lame)

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@tour2ma said:

cal... you asked before about what a DE can contribute against a quick passing O? I neglected to mention "hands up."

Send a couple minutes here... stay with it at least through the field level replay and freeze frame. I promise, it's slack-jaw stuff...

Garrett is going to jump out of the room at the Combine...

OK I demand equal time. 🙂 Why me and Gip see Franchise QB.

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