@the-gipper said:

How does his dick taste?

Like the dick of a guy who can claim 51 Super Bowl victories.

Like a champion.

@wargograw said:

You are the one licking his balls.

@wargograw said:

How does his dick taste?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

So? Is that an admission that you are a FRAK? The most loathesome sort of creature that climbed out of the primordial soup that inhabits the planet? (Oh, that's right....you are looking at a different planet)

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Then simply do this: list the championships won by each TV market. You can include Mars.

@the-gipper said:

Don't need to land there. Mars is in my market - I claim their titles as well.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

When you land on Mars, let us know. You can claim it on behalf of yourself.

@the-gipper said:

Again, can't help it that you are a rootless tool.

But at least I claim all those championships.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Again, can't help it that you are a rootless tool.

Glad we got to the bottom of this.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

You are confusing a "team title" with a "city/region" title. No, the Giants don't claim the Jets titles, nor vice versa....but New York claims them both.

I mean, would you be one of those that says something like "Baltimore cannot claim that its team won titles when it was the Colts that won that title back in the day....those now belong to Indianapolis". Absurd beyond belief.

FYI, it is the "Cleveland" and not "the Browns" that make that franchise a public trust of this entire area.

I mean....you are, or were from South Carolina...or was it the Outer Banks. And we have a team called the "Carolina Panthers". It claims all of two states apparently as its "home" base.

The Cleveland Browns claim all of Northeast Ohio as its home market area. Don't believe me, call and ask them.

And the fact that franchises may have come and gone (moved or gone defunct) makes it no less so. Teams from this area are all part of this area's history. Browns, Bulldogs, Pros, Rams. It don't matter. They are or were all Northeast Ohio teams.

I mean, do you think that when the Cavs played in Richfield that they were any less "Greater Cleveland's" team. No.

I don't know. From what I gather, you have never lived here. Maybe you have loyalty to just the one team that you decided to become a fan of. But that is NOT the feeling of the natives around here.

I mean, I live closer to both Akron and Canton than Cleveland. Does that mean, by your reckoning that I can't be a fan of Cleveland teams...because, after all, I am not from Cleveland?

No, again, maybe it it your non-residency that gives you such a narrow point of view.

But...that ain't "Us".

@the-gipper said:

I mean, a ton of teams don't even play in the city in which they have on their jerseys:

The East Rutherford Jets/Giants

The Orchard Park Bills

The Landover Redskins

The Miami Gardens Dolphins

The Independence Chiefs

The Arlington Cowboys

The Glendale Cardinals

Neither LA team will actually play in LA.

Not to speak of teams that use an entire state: Tennessee Titans, Minnesota Vikings. New England Patriots (Not even a state), Arizona Cardinals.

Yes, despite bearing the name of a particular city, all NFL...hell, all major league sports teams are really regional entities.

But you don't see those teams claiming titles won by other teams in their area, do you?

Or do the Jets get a ring every time the Giants win?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I mean, a ton of teams don't even play in the city in which they have on their jerseys:

The East Rutherford Jets/Giants

The Orchard Park Bills

The Landover Redskins

The Miami Gardens Dolphins

The Independence Chiefs

The Arlington Cowboys

The Glendale Cardinals

Neither LA team will actually play in LA.

Not to speak of teams that use an entire state: Tennessee Titans, Minnesota Vikings. New England Patriots (Not even a state), Arizona Cardinals.

Yes, despite bearing the name of a particular city, all NFL...hell, all major league sports teams are really regional entities.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

That is absolutely true. I would venture to say that 85-90% of people that attend the games live outside of Cleveland proper.

I suspect this could be verified if just the zip codes of all season ticket holders were published.

@wargograw said:

Facts are facts. Truth is truth. In the history of Pro Football going back to 1920, Northeast Ohio has won 13 Championships. I can list them if you would like. It doesn't matter what people think, or claim, or have an attachment to.

Its like saying: "I didn't vote for Donald Trump, I don't like Donald Trump, I don't want to claim him as my President ergo, he is not my President". Well....he IS, whether you like it, or claim it or not.

Facts are fact, Truth is truth.

@the-gipper said:

I mean, if you are a rootless vagabond with no ties to a particular location....or if you are a FRAK, you can perhaps have that attitude.

But most of us have an identity with our home towns, home regions.

A person without an identity with a place, culture or origin is like a tree without roots.

In other words, Tumbleweed.

How do you like blowing in the wind?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I mean, if you are a rootless vagabond with no ties to a particular location....or if you are a FRAK, you can perhaps have that attitude.

But most of us have an identity with our home towns, home regions.

A person without an identity with a place, culture or origin is like a tree without roots.

In other words, Tumbleweed.

How do you like blowing in the wind?