Sorry if this has been posted, just heard about this kid. Looking at his highlights he appears very fast and fluid for a tight end. Don't know where I would draft him though.

@tiamat63 said:

Good catch Tia! In addition to his 2nd Team All Pro honor as a Strong Safety in 2010 under Williams - he made the Pro Bowl for Philly in 2015.

At this moment I'm not sure where I'd take Adoree'. Gut says it isn't the first round though.

@tiamat63 said:

Thanks for the time you put into that.It wasa great analysis.

If he's slated for round 1, I'm weary of his 185 lb frame holding up. It reminds me a lot of Phillip Buchanon who was the same 5-11 height weighing in at about 185 lbs prior to being selected 18th/19th overall out of the Miami Hurricanes. Despite a long career, he never lived up to his first round expectation. He was a liability against the run, remained easy to block and just incompatible with the NFL physics. The only time I watched USC was in the Rose Bowl and Adoree Jackson got injured late in the 2nd half.

I once thought the talent of K'Wuan Williams was a grand theft because he was undrafted. Having said that, the 183 lb corner seemed to constantly get dinged up and leave games early due to injury. He had great cover skills and I loved his willingness to tackle but durability separates the does from the bucks.

I know my 2 cents is only worth 1 cent in this conversation; but I'd rather prioritize Safety at #12 or 33 than any corners under 6' weighing in the 180s. The last time we drafted a Safety in the first round it was Eric Turner who was so freakin good he shutout the best TE in football and go-to guy in NE (Ben Coates) in the last playoff game this franchise won. Just when I thought I'd never see another Safety lay the lumber like Don Rogers - here comes Erock putting an end to that worry. I get the impression Gregg Williams isn't any different than BB in thinking he like to prioritize the middle of the Secondary first especially after Tour shared that article from the OBR. Not only that, but Sean Taylor played some lights out football when he had Gregg Williams as his DC. I think he also changed Malcolm Jenkins from a Cornerback to an NFL Safety where he made 2nd Team All Pro in 2010.

He's one of my favorites.....I think with the right development, he could be woodsonish......

I see him as a great value with his many skills.......(and has his head on straight too).....

Though I see some work on technique from his second to third year, he is still incredibly raw for the position. Making his bones simply by being a better athlete with great makeup speed.

His discipline in opening up his hips is poor, he lunges with an open stance quite a bit to get jams... not sure who the hell taught him that - and runs high on his receiver more often than not.

But as I said, great makeup speed. When he's in his back-peddle, plants and drives he's able to close quickly to breakup passes and appears to be slightly above average at tackling. He's no Haden in his prime, sure not

Winfield, but he isn't a sissy about it either. Still some room on his frame for a few more quality pounds.

His light feet and hip work are like watching Lattimore. Only he doesn't have the discipline on the underneath stuff and rounds out to path to the receiver when trailing or going for the ball. Though, again, he makes up for that with awesome closing speed. If you go Jackson, be prepared to watch a lot of growing pains and a young man that is going to need to hit the ground running with his position coach. You won't see a lot of fruit from the labor until midway through year 2 at best.

As a return man he's above average, but he has a tenancy to carry the ball sloppy. A couple of times he could have had it poked out but secured it quickly before contact. A few by design, a few by shear luck.

In all honesty I'd compare him to a little smaller Marcus Peter's. He has all the physical traits in the world and the great flip from his hips, but discipline, footwork and film will be where he needs the biggest improvement.

@gumby73 said:

Watching the film vs Cal right now, great return skills... ball security? Not so much.

@tiamat63 said:

Bingo..And the great bowl game with Penn State I began to question the so-called experts on Adoree. No doubt the kid has great return skills but lets not just draft return skills..

@gumby73 said:

I know I've heard a ton of hype on Adoree because of his athletic ability. Said ability doesn't often translate into being a good corner. You must have discipline, footwork, fluid change of direction and a great feel or the subtle tips in a receivers route.

I guess that means I'll be watching some Jackson for the next hour or two.

@tiamat63 said:

feel better. I feel we need a CB. It's deep, but 2nd or 3rd rounder maybe needed now that Tramon Williams is out.This Past Wednesday i got torn viewing between OSU-Gareon Conley vs Clemson-Cordrea Tankersley & USC-Adoee Jackson..Williams seems 60% Nickle, but actually saw some press coverage also in Rams corners..Who you like? (ignoring a Buckeye helmet )?

Who should I watch first?

@wargograw said:

Nor I. With all the extra blockers going at Garrett as well as plays away from him, Hall should have had a far better year if he were as good.

@poeticg said:

Never thought that personally.

Daeshon Hall is a monster.

You can easily tell the physical limitations but the guy was doing a damn good job diagnosing the Alabama plays and shifting guys around. He's got a pretty marked weakness in pass coverage but I think is well worth a shot with a late 5th or 6th round pick. The mental awareness and passion is there which to me is critical at that position.

@mudfly said:

Combine will be huge for Conner. DS estimates his 40 time as 4.67... That's really pushing his acceptability NFL speed-wise.

That said... I like his tape. The kid is a very smart, tough runner. If nothing else, at 240 he might find a home at FB in the NFL... a FB with skills that would warrant more than one, token carry per game.

Stepping back for a second to reread it... maybe the above is K.Mack-ish.

@clevfan4life said:

More midgets tour?

Well... whoever distracts distracts...

Not sure how 5'11 qualifies as "midget". Taywan reminded me of KC sensation, Tyreek 5'8 Hill. I don't see anything on our roster like him.

@wargograw said:

Unless Josh Reynolds is still there for the last pick.

@tour2ma said:

Love the choice of topic. One of the QBs we had here for a cup of coffee (Jeff Brohm) has a pretty good football program at Western Kentucky as evidenced by what you found.

Reuben Foster steals the show a lot when I'm watching Allen remain unselfish in the scheme that permits the Bama LBers to succeed. Even more so than scheme, his 1-step instinct is unparalleled.

I clearly need to start looking at more film of prospects projecting to go after round 1.

At the Senior Bowl, I'd have to say the guy who pleasantly surprised me the most was the 6'1" 195 lb Safety from St Francis - Lorenzo Jerome, who caused 3 turnovers from a great nose for the football. Seeing that, reminds me this is a deep enough draft on the defensive side of the ball to the extent if we can select a BPA on the offensive side of the ball at #12 if the situation presents itself. Aside from that, undrafted corners like Boddy-Calhoun and K'Wuan Williams have helped this team way more than Justin Gilbert ever did in round 1.

Another guy I liked at the Senior Bowl was 6'5" QB Davis Webb who hadn't received nearly the same hype as other QBs in this draft. We can probably land him anywhere from our 2nd pick in round 2 to the top of round 3. I'm guessing I'm not the only one that wants to consider the alternatives to spending our 1st pick on a QB so teams feeling the same way may reach up for a guy like this as early as round 2 or 3.

Watching OJ Howard at the Senior Bowl ledto the intrigue for me to watch his 6:44 highlight of him X-factoring the last Bama National Championship.He had about 85-90 yards in just 1 quarter of action at the Senior Bowl following a great week there.

6'2" 225 lb Toledo RB Kareem Hunt looked really good for the mid rounds I'd expect us to consider a RB in this draft.

6'4" 311 lb Indiana OL Dan Feeney looked really solid and I think he projects well at OG in this league, which just so happens to be a position we have 2 starters trying to return from unpredictable foot injuries at.

Here's a very bad first impression I got at the Senior Bowl, which might not end up fair to the bigger body of work he might have put in during the regular season. The OL from Pitt (Adam Bisnowaty) with the blonde haired Repunzel look was a nightmare in pass pro at the Senior Bowl.