Makings of the 12 Days of Romo... which is about how long lasted this past preseason.

Two back surgeries ...

One golden arm?

You need to clarify what you are asking for then. Because there is a huge difference in gap between starter and backup and best duo. I would say the narrowest gap is a team like the Browns, Texans, maybe even the Dolphins with how Moore finished the season, but are nowhere close to best duo. And as for Romo, yes he has been very injury prone the past few seasons, but when he is healthy he is very good. And right now he is the healthiest he has been in years. IF he can stay healthy (not miss extended period of time) he can make another team a lot better. His skill, I would take over any other QB in his division, except 50/50 with Dak. Dak showed so much poise and ran the offense well and doesn't make mistakes, where Romo has superior arm talent. Eli is so hot and cold I wouldn't trust him, Wentz played well in some games, some not so well, and Captain Kirk was fantasy QB goldmine, winning wise and great QB, not so much. And they are the closest team to me, about 3-4 hours but I can't pull for them or half my family and their Cowgirls, but Cousins and his yelling stuff just shows me he doesn't have IT. But for Washington, I think they should sign him long term because what is the alternative

I am of the opinion that for the NFC, the narrowest gap between starter and Backup may be either the Bengals with Dalton/McCarron...or the Chiefs with Smith/Foles. (this is not taking into consideration the HOF quality of Brady etc.

IF Romo were the Romo of 3 years ago. But he has had what? Two back surgeries since?

Last year, Jared Goff almost 28 million and 18.5 million guaranteed, Carson Wentz almost 27 million and 17.5 guaranteed, and Paxton Lynch 9.5 million and 5 million guaranteed. Jimmy Garoppolo in 2017- $820,077 salary and $75,000 workout bonus. He would be cheaper this year, but then more expensive. But like I said I don't mind these college QB's, its just something I don't understand with the league. Like I said I look at things coach wise, and of course that in kids and amateurs and I will admit I am much more into college than pros. My dad is a Browns fan, so thats why I am. There are probably 3 in the state of Virginia. But anyway, I don't get teams, not just one, or fans want of a draft pick over someone you have seen. There are examples all over the league of "x player' who was pretty good being traded for this draft pick. But there are also examples of teams giving up too much compensation for a proven player i.e. Sam Bradford.

With all that said, I am in Camp hit on a lot of picks

I dunno, Tony Romo is a very good QB. Only question is health. Just go back to last time he played a lot, he was high in mvp race.

New England easily

Lets look at these by conference. Here are the starters and backups for each AFC team per Ourlads Who has the best combo?:

Bills: Tyrod Taylor, EJ Manuel

Dolphins: Tannehill, Matt Moore

Pats: Brady, Garropolo

Jets: Geno Smith, Bryce Petty

Ravens: Flacco, Ryan Mallet

Bengals: Dalton, AJ McCarron

Browns: Griffin, Kessler

Steelers: Roeth. Landry Jones

Texans: Osweiler, Tom Savage

Colts: Luck, Scott Tolzein

Jags: Bortles, Chad Henne

Tits: Mariota, Matt Cassell

Broncos: Trevor Siemian, Paxton Lynch

Chiefs: Alex Smith, Nick Foles

Chargers: Rivers, Kellen Clemens

Raiders: Carr, Matt McGloin

Who is best in AFC?

Yea, no. Honestly, I do not see Romo by any means as the best "backup QB" in the league.

Good question though....what team does have the best starter/backup combination. New England is certainly in the running....but I won't hand it to them without more in depth discussion.

In fact, Cincy was one of places I think would be 50/50 with a Jimmy replacement. There is only 1 place in NFL that you could say is in better position than New England at QB with back up and that is Dallas. But Brady tips the scale in New England favor

Yea, I figured it was just a mistake or oversight.

Prospects' promise plus price tag and the hope of solidifying the position for a decade and change...

Kaep is 29+... TT 27.5... JG 25.3...

\Mitch would turn 23 late in camp.

Kizer just turned 22.

Watson will turn 22 the day before I do in Sept...

Oops, they must have crossed my eyes in the writing. No I think Cam is way better than Dalton. I can admit when I am wrong, even though the wrong was just a mistake.

2011: Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder- best QB from draft: 2nd round Andy Dalton

Do you really think that Andy Dalton has been a better QB than Cam Newton?

Kinda blows your whole credibility with that statement.

Nah... stay...

If you've read much here, then you have to know that hindsight is something we've grown weary of. Try a fresher topic... preferably a forward looking one.

Tis the season for FAs and the draft. Spend your time there. No guarantees that your take(s) will be embraced, but that's part of the fun.

Are you on board with Garrett at #1 overall or have another prospect in mind?

As far as your question I have bolded, I think, in our society, a lot of folks are in love with the "unknown" as the possibilities for excellence seem limitless hence the desire for a draftee. We'l see what happens.

I just thought it was interesting. Especially when considering some of the stuff I read from people on here. I havent been reading that long, couple years maybe, but it is certainly interesting to read the opinions of people on here. Just take one of the most talked about points recently, Jimmy Garappolo. What I have read most people do not want him, with people saying things like look at the history of other QB's from New England or if New England wants to trade him then there must be a reason. I am sorry if you dont agree, and everyone has a right to their opinion, and doesn't make me right, but JG is NOT Matt Cassell or others. Just because some others haven't worked out doesn't mean he wouldn't. And NE has a history of not paying a lot of people and getting rid of people before they have to pay them. I can certainly remember when there was a Camp Jimmy G on here, and now that he has spent a couple years in the best organization in the NFL he has gotten worse? So because others have seemed to be system QB then he must be too? Maybe NE does feel like Brady will be around for a few more years and don't want to let JG walk next year for nothing, or they don't want that huge franchise tag to pay him, or maybe they also like what they see in Brissett? I don't know, and I am not saying the Browns should trade for him, and certainly not saying giving up a 1st round pick for him, but just because someone else didn't work out doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

And then there is the love for the college QB's, especially Trubisky. There is just as much a chance that he is worse than Jimmy G than not. The young man hasn't played a down in the NFL, and we have seen Jimmy G play and play well, so exactly what makes him more valuable? Because he is a college QB? Because he is bigger? Because he is the highest rated QB? Because he is from Ohio? Since I like this research, and now the entire NFL, since 2000, these are the 1st round QB's:

2000: Chad Pennington- best QB from year: 6th Round Tom Brady

2001: Michael Vick- best QB from year: 2nd Round Drew Brees

2002: David Carr, Joey Harrington, and Patrick Ramsey- best QB from draft: probably 3rd round Josh McCown

2003: Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman- best QB from draft: Carson Palmer

2004: Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman- best QB from draft: the top 3 have all been very good

2005: Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell- best QB from draft: Aaron Rodgers

2006: Vince Young, Matt Leinhart, Jay Cutler- best QB from draft: Jay Cutler but doesn't say much

2007: Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn- best QB from draft: Nobody really

2008: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco- best QB from draft: Matt Ryan

2009: Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman- best QB from draft- Matt Stafford

2010: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow- best QB from draft- Sam Bradford but doesn't say much

2011: Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder- best QB from draft: 2nd round Andy Dalton

2012: Andrew Luck, RG3, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden- best QB from draft: I would say 3rd round Russell Wilson

2013: EJ Manuel- best QB from draft: Nobody really

2014: Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Twatwater- best QB from draft: Derek Carr

2015: Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota- best QB from draft: both have been pretty good

2016: Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and Paxton Lynch- best QB from draft: 4th round Dak Prescott

So that is 17 years. Best QB from draft has been a 1st rounder 8 of the 17 years, with 6 of the 17 being good QB's. 45 QB's taken in 1st round since 2000. If I were the Browns, there are at best 15 I would have liked as my starter in that time, so 33%. There are 8 drafted after 1st round that would be good to have.

I am not saying shouldn't draft one, not in the slightest. I don't see bad in either Mitch or at time Watson, but what makes people think so highly of a draft pick over someone in the NFL already? Or better yet, since the topic has been Jimmy G, how many teams in the NFL would he be the starter for? At least 12. Here are the teams I think have a better option than him. New England, Baltimore, Cinncinati (50/50), Pittsburgh, Indy, Tennessee, Kansas City, Oakland, San Diego, Dallas, New York, Washington (50/50), Detroit, Green Bay, Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans Tampa Bay, Arizona, Seattle. I hope whatever the Browns decide, its the right thing, whether it is someone on another roster, someone on the Browns roster, or a college player

As for what I think the Browns should do? Whatever makes them better. I am not really in a "camp" because there are so many other variables to it then just a single player. I guess that may be the difference, and I guess it can be good and bad, but I look at any team I am watching in a coaches mindset and not a fans like most do. But I think I would go defense

I just thought it was interesting.

As for what I think the Browns should do? Whatever makes them better. I am not really in a "camp" because there are so many other variables to it then just a single player. I guess that may be the difference, and I guess it can be good and bad, but I look at any team I am watching in a coaches mindset and not a fans like most do. But I think I would go defense