@mark-o said:

I think we need to aim higher.

@the-gipper said:

I think he would be.

@elkdawg said:

But, is Tyrod Taylor any better?

@the-gipper said:

Does anyone really think that would be an upgrade from RG3?

ummmmmm yeah. RG3 is garbage.

@ghoolie said:

Seriously, who the fuck gets excited about this kind of shit?

Cause a smart guy wouldn't post this and out himself as a moron...

@ghoolie said:

Fucking ridiculous. Why get rid of the QB coach you had? It seems to me the fucking guy you need to get rid of is the one who BUILT THE REBUILDING FOUNDATION on Black Tarkenton, McCown and Kessler the China Glass Passer.

Idiots, man, fucking idiots.

You don't even know the circumstance that surrounded the parting of a coach, wrongly blame the FO, and still expect anyone to give your opinion any credence?

? Yeah, I'm sure you get all the other details right...Just not that one.

@gumby73 said:

That is my understanding... any tackle of the QB behind the LOS after a drop back goes in the books as a sack.

If he gains anything, then it goes down as a rush.

We NEEDED a QB coach. Now is the best time to get one (while some of 'em are available).

Yes, we need a QB too....but we can't get one of them now...right? So let's do what we can now.....unless someone thinks it's a good idea to get the QB first and then let HIM pick his QB coach.

@the-gipper said:

....Football Gods if your listening...The Browns have traded pick #33 to the New England Patriots & The Patriots our on the clock

@gumby73 said:

There are too many QB hungry teams out there at he top of the draft. Trubisky will never last until #12. Browns, 49ers, Bears, Jets, now probably Cardinals all need QBs. Hell, 3 QBs could all be drafted before pick #12.

@tour2ma said:

I was alarmed in sacks myself T..36 in 2015..42 in 2016...Rg3 was sacked 22 times in 5 games. But if a scramble leads to a tackle behind LOS of -1..It is recorded as a sack? sure seems like it in Tyrod's case

@the-gipper said:

How did that work in the Collins deal? Pretty damn well imo. I am not a big fan of grass basketball QB's. It's smoke n mirrors season. With this QB coach decision all signs point to Tyrod, RG3 & maybe a Watson as our QB's. But Shawn McDerrmit is a defensive, 1st year HC at Bills counting on a Cardell Jones & EJ Manual & a underachieving good defense? Am not buying it.. Am a pocket, see it & rip it guy. That's AJ McCarron, JG & Mitch. Pats wanted a 2nd & 4th to start with for JG. As good ownership should do they value JG now as a 1st, due to the falling stock in draftable QB's in this draft.. We start the 2nd with #33.IMO that's our safest bet to land a JG.. To many hungry QB teams will remain on the board to #52 & he won't be there comparing valued player to the "might be" board. But yes, you take Mitch's value for what it is.....#12(whole lot still pending)

@gumby73 said:

Well, you know my view. I would not give up more than our #52 pick for JG. In addition....if they did do a trade for him, it would have to be contingent on him signing an extension....at some reasonable price. Certainly NOT franchise tag rate.

@hoorta said:

OK, then. I guess then I don't understand why there would be much credence into the idea of acquiring him.

If the Bills wouldn't want him, why the fuck would the Browns have any interest in him?

I would still question if the guy would be an upgrade from RG3 at all at this point.

@tour2ma said:

Absolutely, and throw running backs in there as well. Barnidge's (1000 yards) top was a lot higher than Clay's top (600 yards) though

@gftchris said:

When your WR corps is not strong (or available) your TE rises to the top.... Clay in BUF in 2016... Barn in CLE in 2015.

@tour2ma said:

Pop quiz - who are Buffalo's top receivers? If you said Sammy Watkins, you're half right - except he only caught 28 passes (5th on team) for 430 yards (4th), and 2 TDs (4th).

http://www.buffalobills.com/team/team-stats.html

Anyone there scare a DC outside of Shady?

@hoorta said:

Expensive as hell to cut, but at ~$17mm/season, not to play. So it comes down to evaluation.

I don't know if TT is gold, but his 63% connect percentage and 3:1 TD to INT ratio over the past two years aren't indicative of stupid play. The only thing that gives pause is his sack total which seems high for a "mobile" QB.

@tour2ma said:

I forgot to mention that I'm pat Mac right?

@hoorta said:

Do you know why he got the contract? Cause he decided to not show up at camp for his last 500k. of a contract. Think JG will show up to camp with 700k remaining on his..No Way Pats. Franchise JG but must tag by 3-1. In the draft we will have our answer when & if they trade JG..Popcorn is ready

@gftchris said:

@the-gipper said:

I understood that TAylor is to be a FA, so no trade would be required.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Nope, Chris is right... http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyrod-taylor-7899/ Signed a 5 year contract and is in year 2. Will cost the Bills a ton to cut him in a cap hit.

Connect the dots? Browns hire Tyrod Taylor's QB coach from Buffalo

Pat McManamonESPN Staff Writer

Tyrod Taylor, anyone?

The Cleveland Browns hired their quarterbacks coach Wednesday. He is David Lee, who spent the last two seasons with the Buffalo Bills, where he coached -- yes -- Taylor.

While this isn't college basketball, where the recruit's father can somehow wind up with a job at the school where the recruit decides to play, there are readily evident connectable dots here.

Taylor checks off almost every box of Browns coach Hue Jackson's requirements for a quarterback:

• He's dependable. Taylor started 29 of 31 games for the Bills before being held out of the season finale for financial reasons.
• He's accurate. Taylor completed 61 percent of his throws the last two seasons.
• He protects the ball. He threw 12 interceptions in two seasons.
• He gets in the end zone. He had 37 touchdowns passing and 10 running the last two seasons.

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/230920/connect-the-dots-browns-hire-tyrod-taylors-qb-coach-from-buffalo

It's been a while since I remember reading an article by Pat.